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BANGKOK 19 July 2019 04:44
Mann33bkk

Source of income refused by immigration

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17 hours ago, Mann33bkk said:

Yes, I had a full year of transactions meeting the requirement for extention. The bank letter shows detail every transaction from abroad. I did complain on the spot, and was advised to  boss in the L section. She spoke a lot about I could not use this type of income. Only letter from embassy or 400 000 in the account for 2 months prior to extention

Maybe this is where the problem is, maybe it is the type of income that is not acceptable. Maybe the income is not from a government pension and therefore it cannot be guaranteed. Maybe the only guarantee that he can get for this type of income is from his embassy. Just a thought

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16 hours ago, wgdanson said:

If your Embassy will still issue a letter you must go there. If your Embassy WILL NOT issue a letter, your bank and the IO do it. 

 

Why the ???s                        Sorry for the repeat.

i was not aware that IO could issue a letter proving income.

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6 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Maybe this is where the problem is, maybe it is the type of income that is not acceptable. Maybe the income is not from a government pension and therefore it cannot be guaranteed. Maybe the only guarantee that he can get for this type of income is from his embassy. Just a thought

That is a very good thought and rings a bell. 

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21 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Maybe this is where the problem is, maybe it is the type of income that is not acceptable. Maybe the income is not from a government pension and therefore it cannot be guaranteed. Maybe the only guarantee that he can get for this type of income is from his embassy. Just a thought

There would be nothing in the bank statements to identify the sources of income, pensions, dividends, interest, employment, just a transfer amount.

Same with Embassy letters.

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18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

worrying how random the processing here is

Yes, it is. But what’s even crazier is how many are willing to bet their future here on that randomness.

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6 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

There would be nothing in the bank statements to identify the sources of income, pensions, dividends, interest, employment, just a transfer amount.

Same with Embassy letters.

The bank statements may not show anything, but what about the bank letter that goes with the statements. Does that show anything? It is just that the IO said that this type of income is not acceptable that says that something about the income is in question, so something must have been presented to the IO for her to say that.

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3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

They will now since the new rules came out last month.

One would hope. 😁

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3 hours ago, onera1961 said:

Can you please cite an use case (except this one. The gentleman is able to get his letter) when "income in the bank" method was not accepted

No, my comment was about income going into a bank from abroad, not income in the bank and seasoned. Search the forums and you will find several examples of people claiming that some immigration offices are not recognizing income every month as being a valid way of satisfying the extension of stay requirements. 

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1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

To make an extension based on retirement, off the back of your OA visa, you have to prove you have adequate funds in Thailand, as you are obtaining an extension to allow permission of stay in Thailand it seems perfectly reasonable that your funds should now be in Thailand.

My funds are in Thailand every time- I go to a Thai ATM and use my US  debit card.  I never bring in less than 65K per month and sometimes over 100K per month.  Easily proved via a printout of my Bank Account records which even shows the exact location of the thai ATM used =backed up by the Debit Card number on the receipt.  Absolute proof I have the monthly income and the amount brought into Thailand.

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52 minutes ago, indepth said:

i was not aware that IO could issue a letter proving income.

Sorry a misunderstanding. I was meaning that to get the extension, you get a letter crtifying your income if they still do it. If not, it is your bank and IO who certify the income.

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1 hour ago, Russell17au said:

Maybe this is where the problem is, maybe it is the type of income that is not acceptable. Maybe the income is not from a government pension and therefore it cannot be guaranteed. Maybe the only guarantee that he can get for this type of income is from his embassy. Just a thought

The income can be from any source, pension, share divis, rental income, selling your body parts (LOL), as long as it comes into Thailand and is above 65/40k per month. So I am led to belive.

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4 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Sorry a misunderstanding. I was meaning that to get the extension, you get a letter crtifying your income if they still do it. If not, it is your bank and IO who certify the income.

 

 

 

........ but you said the banks don't certify income ?

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1 minute ago, LucysDad said:

 

 

 

........ but you said the banks don't certify income ?

The bank will issue a letter for the IO showing that the income into the bank came from abroad ie FTT or International Transfer shown on your bank book or statement, which I could do myself.

THe IO will then look at all those documents and hopefully accept them. No?

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3 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

The income can be from any source, pension, share divis, rental income, selling your body parts (LOL), as long as it comes into Thailand and is above 65/40k per month. So I am led to belive.

Well, it appears that there is something about the type of income that has attracted the IO's attention and she has said that this type of income is not acceptable. What type of income it was we do not know but it is something that we should be wary of if we do our extensions via the income system. One of the mistakes that the OP has made was to argue with an IO because if you are silly enough to do that then you can expect all sorts of problems, so maybe it was that, that has caused his problem

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