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16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The Irish government from the start recognised that brexit would endanger the Good Friday Agreement and have been trying to negotiate with the british government since the vote took place.

 

They want to avoid a return to the events of the past and have been trying to avoid a “hard” border. 

 

They have never ever wanted an external border and are not trying to impose one now. 

Maybe you should call the Irish prime Minister as he is saying differently.

 

"Ireland's prime minister said on Friday his government would find it very difficult to avoid imposing a hard border on Northern Ireland if Britain crashes out of the European Union without an exit agreement."

 

https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/irish-pm-says-eu-would-insist-on-hard-border-without-brexit-deal-18151131

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ireland-commission/no-brexit-deal-means-hard-irish-border-eu-says-idUSKCN1PG1GV

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25 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Maybe you should call the Irish prime Minister as he is saying differently.

 

"Ireland's prime minister said on Friday his government would find it very difficult to avoid imposing a hard border on Northern Ireland if Britain crashes out of the European Union without an exit agreement."

 

https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/irish-pm-says-eu-would-insist-on-hard-border-without-brexit-deal-18151131

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-ireland-commission/no-brexit-deal-means-hard-irish-border-eu-says-idUSKCN1PG1GV

What the Irish want and what tory ineptitude is forcing upon them are two very different things. 

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59 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The IRA wasn't their problem? Obviously you do not know your Irish history.

The IRA were a problem for the British controlled north, not for the republican south.

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2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

What the Irish want and what tory  ineptitude is forcing upon them are two very different things. 

The UK and Ireland both want to border to remain open, its the E.U and the WTO who would insist on there being a hard border

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39 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

because its a different country? 

I was talking about during the troubles. The UK and ROI were both members of the EEC and the CTA which took away the need for a hard border. 

 

Post brexit, both the UK and ROI will both still be CTA members, which allows free movement between both jurisdictions. 

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5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

What the Irish want and what tory  ineptitude is forcing upon them are two very different things. 

In no small part because the DUP has the weak Tory Government by the short and curlies.

 

An abusive agreement paid for out of UK taxes.

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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The IRA wasn't their problem? Obviously you do not know your Irish history.

 

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nor it seems do you.

I'm pretty sure that Dublin suffered a few terrorist atrocities too over the years.

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7 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The UK and Ireland both want to border to remain open, its the E.U and the WTO who would insist on there being a hard border

I never said Eire wanted a border. 

 

The cause of the current impass is tory ineptitude and a failure to negotiate a deal with the Irish government three years ago when approached by the Irish government. 

 

The Irish saw the problems immediately after the brexit vote and tried to resolve them, the tories failed to respond.

 

The Irish even, at one point,  offered to agree on an interim agreement that would allow issues surrounding the Good Friday Agreement to be resolved as they arose. Guess what- the tories did nothing. 

 

The ongoing “backstop” debacle is fully on the tories, not the eu. 

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44 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

So yet again, the 'Ireland question' comes back to haunt the UK and hold the rest of the UK to ransom.  If they truly are part of the UK in the North then of course there must be a border with the EU, with appropriate controls.  The Irish can't have their cake and eat it,  it's one or the other.   Maybe this is just the right time to finally get real and address the idiotic historic anomaly that is the north and accept the blindingly obvious, that the island of Ireland is indeed just one country. 

"Maybe this is just the right time to finally get real and address the idiotic historic anomaly that is the north and accept the blindingly obvious, that the island of Ireland is indeed just one country."

 

I'm inclined to agree - but this wouldn't be fair on the majority of those in N. Ireland, unless there is a referendum in N. Ireland, and the majority agree that the North and South should be united. :sad:

 

With a bit of luck, if there is a genuine brexit, perhaps the electorate will agree to uniting with the South?

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Someone tell me why the Irish government didn't put a border up when the IRA were killing Protestants (and Others) for years during the 1970s-1990s. Funny how it was important then but it is now!

Because since around 400 AD there's been no-one here with the skills or organisation good enough to get it done.

See below.

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29 minutes ago, samran said:

The IRA were a problem for the British controlled north, not for the republican south.

If you would have served in NI you would know that statement is absolute drivel and rubbish.

Racketeering, Gun smuggling, Kidnapping, Murder just to name a few.

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1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Im afraid that’s a decision the UK has to make alone itself, and the EU doesn’t have a say in it at all, even if you’re running away from making a call until last minute. Blaming someone else for your lack of leadership is pretty pathetic. You wanted to take control but now you can’t handle it; you wanted to be “sovereign” but now you can’t stand on your own feet

Gordon Ramsey will put names on the crust for advanced orders...

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Just now, Laughing Gravy said:

If you would have served in NI you would know that statement is absolute drivel and rubbish.

Racketeering, Gun smuggling, Kidnap, Murder just to name a few.

Was there an IRA contingent from Ireland ?

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