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5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Someone tell me why the Irish government didn't put a border up when the IRA were killing Protestants (and Others) for years during the 1970s-1990s. Funny how it was important then but it is now!

Do you have any idea on what the backstop issue means, or did you vote for Brexit solely based on what you read on the side of buses?

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9 minutes ago, brucec64 said:

Do you have any idea on what the backstop issue means, or did you vote for Brexit solely based on what you read on the side of buses?

Of Course I know what the backstop issue is being sprouted about means. The argument I am putting forward that it isn't needed to prevent the troubles starting again. something that is been used by the Irish PM and the EU.

 

As for talk about buses you are being childish.

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1 hour ago, samran said:

I think the locals are telling us that having no border is the preferred solution.

 

How having one esures the GF agreement remains intact is beyond my obviously less educated and effeminate mind, as you are wont to regularly point out. 

Where the poster gets the idea that Eire wants a hard border to protect the Good Friday Agreement is a mystery.

 

The Irish government wants no such thing and, unlike the tories, saw the implications for the GFA if such a situation arose, immediately after the brexit vote.

 

They tried to prevent the very situation the tories have now created.

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3 hours ago, evadgib said:

Drugs, livestock, farm machinery/tractors, ringers, fuel, women, cash, booze, Fr Ted,....

Shergar, Lord Lucan, Terry Wogan, Val Doonican, The Bachelors, Graham Norton, Mrs Brown, Guiness, Jamesons....

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As someone who now lives in England but who was from Northern Ireland and lived there through the troubles both before the Bernadette Devlin marches and the aftermath wouldn't it be better if the Irish question and the B Specials, RUC, IRA, PIRA, UDF, UDA, British Army etc. be left to those who actually have some idea of what they are talking about.

 

Trust me you could be born and lived there all your life and still not fully understand it so what chance does anyone else have especially the English.

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Do you have any idea on what the backstop issue means, or did you vote for Brexit solely based on what you read on the side of buses?

The was no ‘backstop’ before the vote. It’s purely an invention of Merkel and May, created only recently to frustrate the exit by using the NI border issue as one of its tricks.


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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Of Course I know what the backstop issue is being sprouted about means. The argument I am putting forward that it isn't needed to prevent the troubles starting again. something that is been used by the Irish PM and the EU.



  

As for talk about buses you are being childish.

You obviously have no knowledge of the Good Friday Agreement. 

 

Again, you just spout the Brexit propaganda, which is usually seen on the side of buses.

 

An, by the way, the "technology" solution for the border does not exist...

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2 hours ago, Loiner said:


The was no ‘backstop’ before the vote. It’s purely an invention of Merkel and May, created only recently to frustrate the exit by using the NI border issue as one of its tricks.


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No, as per usual, the English centric brixters were totally focused on themselves, the other countries of the union be dammed.

 

Those opposing the exit were too busy reminding voters of the 457,385 other things that would be an consequence of brexit, to have time to remind people of this one, though some did. For most, a return to the bad old days of the troubles was unimaginable. 

 

The people of NI voted pretty comprehensively to stay in the EU, something which the brexiters conveniently ignore.

 

The irony of all of this is that the little Englanders have become the caricatures that they like to present of Brussels. Distant, foreign, overbearing and undemocratic. 

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15 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Prods will inevitably go the way of Whites in Zimbabwe & SA in due course if Sinn Fein get their way but that's another topic.

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1 hour ago, Loiner said:


The was no ‘backstop’ before the vote. It’s purely an invention of Merkel and May, created only recently to frustrate the exit by using the NI border issue as one of its tricks.


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No it's not an invention of Merkel & May. It arose during negotiations between the EU & the UK because of May refusing to allow the UK to stay in the customs union.

 

And, no, it's not there to frustrate the exit but to prevent the border between Ireland & NI being reinstalled (as it was prior to joining the EU in 1983).

 

Ireland doesn't want a border but is preparing to set one up in the event of no agreement over Brexit.

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2 hours ago, Bannoi said:

As someone who now lives in England but who was from Northern Ireland and lived there through the troubles both before the Bernadette Devlin marches and the aftermath wouldn't it be better if the Irish question and the B Specials, RUC, IRA, PIRA, UDF, UDA, British Army etc. be left to those who actually have some idea of what they are talking about.

 

Trust me you could be born and lived there all your life and still not fully understand it so what chance does anyone else have especially the English.

Theresa May is now a mouthpiece for the UDP. You pays your money, you gets your choice.

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16 minutes ago, champers said:

Theresa May is now a mouthpiece for the UDP. You pays your money, you gets your choice.

Yes & no. She is a mouthpiece but she's the one who paid money for their support.

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