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Replace Win 10 OS with Win 7 on laptop

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On 2/14/2019 at 6:48 PM, emptypockets said:

Simon a new laptop may very well tell you only win 10 can be installed. Mine does 2018 Acer bought in Oz. Never ending windows updates continuously cost me a fortune using MTP in Burma.  I ended up doing a reinstall from the built in program. Fixed everything and stopped the continuous windows upgrades . Then look at you tube about the spying that is built in with Win 10. Disable a lot of that and all is good.

 

This is why you should install Pro as opposed to Home. Then you can defer updates quickly and easily.

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On 2/14/2019 at 7:06 PM, impulse said:

I have a tiny Acer laptop running one of the N3450 Celeron processors, and had a problem with it locking up with Win7.

 

I have no clue why, but when I'm downloading a large file from the interweb, the CPU goes to <20% of maximum frequency and it locks up as if it's overheating.  (Resource Monitor)  I installed some CPU temp programs and found the temperature wasn't the problem.  I upgraded to Win10 and still have the same problem, and have been unable to find a solution on any blogs.  I've reached the end of what time I'm willing to spend on a $300 machine, so I just don't use it to download large files.  It's my backup video player.

 

Sorry I can't be of more help, except to possibly save someone some time by not changing OS.  I hated to spend hours and hours changing the OS, getting the drivers all lined up, reloading a bunch of software, then find out it didn't fix the problem.  I'm guessing it's a motherboard thing, but I've already spent too much time on a $300 machine.

 

 

Is it one of those devices with an SD Card as it Boot/Storage drive?

 

Model number?

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OT: Try Chrome OS. Hangouts is great and cheap, the extension handles Office files. It boots up in under 7 seconds and powers down in 1.5 seconds. Paid $ 50 for a Thinkpad X131E on Ebay and love the neat machine.

 

 

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On 2/3/2019 at 9:26 AM, robblok said:

Just curious has that laptop a SSD drive ? otherwise spending some money on an SSD drive would solve the problem.

 

 

It would be feasible to install windows 7, why not if you can get the software and a key you can install it. 

Hear, hear! I just bought a 129 GB SSD for kess than 1,000 THB in Europe. 

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9 hours ago, KneeDeep said:

Is it one of those devices with an SD Card as it Boot/Storage drive?

 

Model number?

 

It's an E3-111 with a 320 GB hard drive.  No optical drive and no cooling fan.  I thought the issue would be cooling, but the CPU temps just don't get that high. 

 

I considered installing an SSD (like I have for all of my well behaved computers), but if it's a CPU or motherboard problem, that would be throwing good money after bad...  I don't care if it boots slowly.  But having it lock up intermittently when the CPU goes <20% of maximum frequency is no bueno.

 

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Do a search on 'Acer Aspire problems with windows 10'. Some specific problems with models reported.

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11 hours ago, onlycw said:

OT: Try Chrome OS. Hangouts is great and cheap, the extension handles Office files. It boots up in under 7 seconds and powers down in 1.5 seconds. Paid $ 50 for a Thinkpad X131E on Ebay and love the neat machine.

I think that would be Chromium OS. Depends on what the OP is using his laptop for, whether any limitations. Certainly he could try running the OS from a flash drive to try it out.

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11 hours ago, impulse said:

 

It's an E3-111 with a 320 GB hard drive.  No optical drive and no cooling fan.  I thought the issue would be cooling, but the CPU temps just don't get that high. 

 

I considered installing an SSD (like I have for all of my well behaved computers), but if it's a CPU or motherboard problem, that would be throwing good money after bad...  I don't care if it boots slowly.  But having it lock up intermittently when the CPU goes <20% of maximum frequency is no bueno.

 

 

 

Have you adjusted the Power Options? https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/use-maximum-cpu-power-windows-10

 

What Temps are you getting?

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11 hours ago, KneeDeep said:

Have you adjusted the Power Options? https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/use-maximum-cpu-power-windows-10

 

What Temps are you getting?

 

I appreciate the effort, but I've run all of those traps- short of taking it in and paying someone.  And for a $300 machine, that's not in the cards.

 

Edit:  I'd add that it was $300 when I bought it in Thailand.  I can replace it for around $200 here in Texas with a newer, zoomier model. 

 

Edited by impulse

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18 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I appreciate the effort, but I've run all of those traps- short of taking it in and paying someone.  And for a $300 machine, that's not in the cards.

 

Edit:  I'd add that it was $300 when I bought it in Thailand.  I can replace it for around $200 here in Texas with a newer, zoomier model. 

 

 

Those CPU are something special...

 

Notwithstanding, I would spend US$20 on a solid state drive and run a clean install. 

US$20 is still better than US$200 and it will definitely perform a lot better than it does now.

 

 

Some have reported that the problem went away with a new install.

 

In addition, have you applied the latest BIOS updates and set the BIOS defaults?

 

You keep repeating that it was a US$300 device, as if that has some bearing on anything.

 

Spend the US$20 on an SSD. Worse case scenario, you can always use the SSD with another device. It's just US$20. No need to agonise over it. 

Even in the worst case, it was be eminently usable with ssd fitted.

 

 

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2 hours ago, KneeDeep said:

 

Those CPU are something special...

 

Notwithstanding, I would spend US$20 on a solid state drive and run a clean install. 

US$20 is still better than US$200 and it will definitely perform a lot better than it does now.

 

Some have reported that the problem went away with a new install.

 

In addition, have you applied the latest BIOS updates and set the BIOS defaults?

 

You keep repeating that it was a US$300 device, as if that has some bearing on anything.

 

Spend the US$20 on an SSD. Worse case scenario, you can always use the SSD with another device. It's just US$20. No need to agonise over it. 

Even in the worst case, it was be eminently usable with ssd fitted.

 

It's not the $20.  It's the half a day of loading it up, trying the latest BIOS, re-tweaking a dozen power settings, reverting from Win10 back to Win7, and finding out it still has the problem. 

 

I may be able to use that SSD, but I'll never get back the wasted time.

 

My purpose of posting wasn't to fix my problem.  It was to warn people that changing the OS may be a waste of time.  I tried that.  I wasted half a day of my life.

 

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4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

It's not the $20.  It's the half a day of loading it up, trying the latest BIOS and finding out it still has the problem. 

 

I may be able to use that SSD, but I'll never get back the wasted time.

 

 

 

 

Just buy the new laptop then....

 

It takes less than half an hour to fit the SSD and install the OS...

 

The problem is that you wasted the time beforehand. It's that time you won't get back.

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14 minutes ago, KneeDeep said:

Just buy the new laptop then....

 

I did.  And I've been happy as a clam...

 

You'll see that I modified my original post to more clearly delineate my point...

 

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No shame in going back to windows 7.

I've used both and just prefer 7. I'm used to it more and it's menu layout. 

Win 10 trying to do what apple does and get too intrusive and controlling.

SSD speeds things up a noticeable amount. Worth doing.

Driver booster program good for after a win 7 downgrade install to get all hardware working properly.

 

 

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I got sick of 8.1 problems so tried to install 10, it would not work. Ended up installing Linux Mint 19, better than 8.1 by far. No auto updates, no security problems not hanging or software not responding, makes windows feel like treacle.

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