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I am little on the brain slow side and can't quite understand your reasoning, could you be so kind to elaborate how the English people can vote May out, quite curious about it
Far be it for me to state your brain is slow, but as has been stated multiple times, voting May out is achieved very simply by not voting for a party she leads.

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1 minute ago, rixalex said:

Being powerless to remove a President from a club my country belongs to might be your sort of democracy. It's not mine.

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You've had it explained to you, on numerous occasions that you can remove the president. As with the US in 2020. There's no helping some people.

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3 hours ago, Spidey said:

You've had it explained to you, on numerous occasions that you can remove the president. As with the US in 2020. There's no helping some people.

More cods. This year his term has to end anyway. He cannot and won't be voted out. His place will be taken by another "nominee" after "approval" by an EU Parliament majority, a process which involves selection followed by approval but not election - easy for the EPP to deal with enough other groups to obtain over 50% for both stages - maybe not so easy after the May EP elections but I'm sure they'll swing it their way next time. 

 

The Spitzenkandidaten system was affected last time due to a several disputes (mainly involving German domestic politics) but finally ended up in Juncker's favour, almost accidentally. Again, Merkel seems to have had significant influence. I was just thinking: if only the UK could influence the EU as much as Germany! But now we have, finally, with Brexit!

 

I finally found a good read from the Rabid Remainers Rag of choice:

 

The https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/27/eu-democratic-bandwagon-juncker-president-wanted

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On 2/9/2019 at 2:51 PM, Spidey said:

As we are all Europeans.

they are an island for God's sake, they never considered themselves Europeans, don't give them too much credit, let them be

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7 hours ago, rixalex said:

Far be it for me to state your brain is slow, but as has been stated multiple times, voting May out is achieved very simply by not voting for a party she leads.

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so you are not voting HER our,  just barely voting for her party out, like they here Not same same

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11 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So people voted leave are xenophobia, please you are embarrassing yourself. As people use less than half of their brains which half are you using, as you seem to be a clairvoyant.🙂

 

Do you actually live here? If not, that's probably why you don't know what a large part of Leave's referendum campaigning consisted of; or maybe you do live here but have simply chosen to ignore it.

 

A significant part of the leave campaign, both the official one and Farage's unofficial one, was about how those nasty foreigners across the channel, especially the Germans, tell us what to do and leaving the EU would mean taking our sovereignty back from said foreigners. 

 

In addition, there was the raft of anti immigration propaganda from both campaigns; Farage's being more blatant than the official campaign's, but there in both.

 

Are you really saying that none of this xenophobic campaigning had any effect? Really? Had you been in the UK and/or paying attention at the time you would know that this man was far from alone in his reason for voting Leave.

 

 

I assume you know enough to realise that all this actually has nothing to do with the EU!

 

In the two years plus since the referendum, the real pros and cons of EU membership have been discussed ad nauseum in the UK media.  The fact that no one in the Leave campaign had any idea about how to continue trading with our largest partner, the EU, let alone the rest of the world most of whom we traded with via agreements made with the EU, should we leave pretty quickly became obvious. The UK public are far more educated on the realities of Remain and Leave; although there are doubtless still those like the above man whose xenophobia is so strong that they will once again ignore the real issues should Parliament take the democratic option of giving the people the final say.

 

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

they are an island for God's sake, they never considered themselves Europeans, don't give them too much credit, let them be

There's a tunnel now.

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17 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Do you actually live here? If not, that's probably why you don't know what a large part of Leave's referendum campaigning consisted of; or maybe you do live here but have simply chosen to ignore it.

 

A significant part of the leave campaign, both the official one and Farage's unofficial one, was about how those nasty foreigners across the channel, especially the Germans, tell us what to do and leaving the EU would mean taking our sovereignty back from said foreigners. 

 

In addition, there was the raft of anti immigration propaganda from both campaigns; Farage's being more blatant than the official campaign's, but there in both.

 

Are you really saying that none of this xenophobic campaigning had any effect? Really? Had you been in the UK and/or paying attention at the time you would know that this man was far from alone in his reason for voting Leave.

 

 

I assume you know enough to realise that all this actually has nothing to do with the EU!

 

In the two years plus since the referendum, the real pros and cons of EU membership have been discussed ad nauseum in the UK media.  The fact that no one in the Leave campaign had any idea about how to continue trading with our largest partner, the EU, let alone the rest of the world most of whom we traded with via agreements made with the EU, should we leave pretty quickly became obvious. The UK public are far more educated on the realities of Remain and Leave; although there are doubtless still those like the above man whose xenophobia is so strong that they will once again ignore the real issues should Parliament take the democratic option of giving the people the final say.

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, Brexiteers compare quite closely to Trump's "base" even the demography is pretty identical.. Headless chickens who will fall for the BS of a snake oil salesman, who gives them the BS that they want to hear. Muslims out! - leave the EU/ ban them from the US. Johnny Foreigner is taking our jobs, here on benefits, crims - take back control of our borders/build a wall.

 

All pretty identical to Hitler's propaganda in the 30s.

 

When Trump came to power, the sad thing and what I found shocking was the number of US citizens that voted for Trump's BS. What's even more shocking is that an even greater percentage of Brits lapped up the leave campaign's xenophobic BS and actually voted leave.

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5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

yes,

between UK and Europe

shame on you

 

 

Probably fill it in after Brexit to stop all those drug runners, rapists and all round bad hombres sneaking in from Europe at night. Trump builds a wall we fill the tunnel in, equally prudent.

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15 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

I assume you know enough to realise that all this actually has nothing to do with the EU!

 

In the two years plus since the referendum, the real pros and cons of EU membership have been discussed ad nauseum in the UK media. 

Those Africans Syrians and Iraqis don't arrive directly at Heathrow with visas. They come through EU countries, who appear to do little to prevent thousands of them arriving at Calais. 

Merkel's million invited guests from the same sources are definitely an EU created problem. She even wanted to distribute them throughout the EU. No wonder the man in Barnsley and majority of UK voted Leave.

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8 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Those Africans Syrians and Iraqis don't arrive directly at Heathrow with visas. They come through EU countries, who appear to do little to prevent thousands of them arriving at Calais. 

Merkel's million invited guests from the same sources are definitely an EU created problem. She even wanted to distribute them throughout the EU. No wonder the man in Barnsley and majority of UK voted Leave.

Most ofd them come through the Eurotunnel. "Fill it in! Fill it in!". Let's all go bach to the 19th century and MGBGA!

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20 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Unfortunately, Brexiteers compare quite closely to Trump's "base" even the demography is pretty identical.. Headless chickens who will fall for the BS of a snake oil salesman, who gives them the BS that they want to hear. Muslims out! - leave the EU/ ban them from the US. Johnny Foreigner is taking our jobs, here on benefits, crims - take back control of our borders/build a wall.

 

All pretty identical to Hitler's propaganda in the 30s.

 

When Trump came to power, the sad thing and what I found shocking was the number of US citizens that voted for Trump's BS. What's even more shocking is that an even greater percentage of Brits lapped up the leave campaign's xenophobic BS and actually voted leave.

Yep, the Trump voters won their vote too. There's more of us than you i both countries.

I'm even more sadder than you at the way my country has gone. I want to take back control of everything that has been done to it over the past 20 odd years or more by people like you. We have started that with Leaving the EU.

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