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16 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Same old rhetoric. People didn't know what they voted for. They are uneducated. It was about immigration. It would seem all justifications for some posters to say you were wrong. Lets have another vote.

 

You do play the racist card at every opportunity. It doesn't matter what some people may have or may not have campaigned for. I didn't even care. i voted leave for my reasons. nothing to do with immigration although I had seen the way the UK has gone and not in a good direction IMHO.

 

i find it ironic that in a Thai forum where I assume many people live/have lived there or visit regularly know the immigration laws there.

 

I lived there for 17 years working and will live there again. In that time every year I had my qualifications checked and experience. I had to report every 90 days. I was an alien and accepted that. I didn't put my nose in Thai politics or affairs as , we can't frankly. I am was/will be a guest in a country that has dubious dealings but I accept it. If not i would leave.

 

I am married to a Thai and have been since I first went there. Hardly a racist.  As a poster you always use that. I would suggest you don't, as with religion it is a very weak and feeble argument

 

You keep arguing in the leave campaign. It is over. move on from it. the UK public are certainly more informed as a whole on how the EU operate. Educated is not the word I would use. If anyone disagrees with you they are a xenophobe. It is getting quite tedious now. Putting a video of one man and his views does not represent everyone, you seem to be copying the BBC tactic which is very transparent and very weak as an argument.

 

So basically, what you are saying is that if anyone disagrees with your view, they should shut up.

 

I can think of a few other people who have , famously, taken that line.

 

Donald Trump, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, to name but a few. You're in good company.

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20 minutes ago, Spidey said:

So basically, what you are saying is that if anyone disagrees with your view, they should shut up.

The exact opposite. it is what the poster says about me and other leavers.

 

If you have a different point of view fine. Don't use, the race card, education level or you didn't know what you are voting for as reasons. They are not.

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You can take responsibility for something that your country has done. Germans still do it regarding the Holocaust. You do the opposite; you try to blame Merkel for something that was caused by the UK (and others) when she wasn’t even in charge of anything. And since I haven’t heard this from remainers but only from Brexiteers, I am asking when Brexiteers will start to take responsibility. 

My country has absolutely no responsibility for the mass migration of millions of young Muslim males. Brexiteers have even less.
Angela Merkel holds more than her fair share of responsibility, after making her open door policy. ‘Come to the EU boys.’
Left luvvies, MSM and bleeding hearts bearing ‘Refugees Welcome Here’ placards, Hood some responsibly.
I will never take any responsibility for any of them, and strongly resent any of my taxes being given to them.


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20 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The exact opposite. it is what the poster says about me and other leavers.

 

If you have a different point of view fine. Don't use, the race card, education level or you didn't know what you are voting for as reasons. They are not.

It's just the popular opinion on brexiteers and their motives. We are allowed to voice our opinions, aren't we?

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16 minutes ago, Loiner said:


My country has absolutely no responsibility for the mass migration of millions of young Muslim males. Brexiteers have even less.
Angela Merkel holds more than her fair share of responsibility, after making her open door policy. ‘Come to the EU boys.’
Left luvvies, MSM and bleeding hearts bearing ‘Refugees Welcome Here’ placards, Hood some responsibly.
I will never take any responsibility for any of them, and strongly resent any of my taxes being given to them.


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Brexiteers shifting the blame again. That’s what you’re good at. Fxcking things up and then point on those who have to deal with your mess. Just to make it clear again: Merkel didn’t go to war in Iraq. The UK did. Take responsibility for your action. You caused this mass migration. 

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

It's just the popular opinion on brexiteers and their motives. We are allowed to voice our opinions, aren't we?

Well if you want to voice your opinion that brexiteers are stupid, racists, didn't know what they were voted for, voted leave on immigration then go ahead, as so many here seem to do. If you want to be taken seriously then voice your opinions with better answers, as the ones I have just mentioned are used far too often and are incorrect.

 

Shouting down at people also doesn't help either and it seems to be a standard from politicians to posters here on TV.

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9 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Well if you want to voice your opinion that brexiteers are stupid, racists, didn't know what they were voted for, voted leave on immigration then go ahead, as so many here seem to do. If you want to be taken seriously then voice your opinions with better answers, as the ones I have just mentioned are used far too often and are incorrect.

 

Shouting down at people also doesn't help either and it seems to be a standard from politicians to posters here on TV.

Your efforts to refute the claims of racism amongst Brexiteers are being undermined by your fellow Brexiteers and their fixation on immigrants, Muslims and refugees:

 

It takes a special kind of denial to claim that Brexit is not supported by racist and that racists are predominantly supporters of Brexit.

 

30 minutes ago, Loiner said:


My country has absolutely no responsibility for the mass migration of millions of young Muslim males. Brexiteers have even less.
Angela Merkel holds more than her fair share of responsibility, after making her open door policy. ‘Come to the EU boys.’
Left luvvies, MSM and bleeding hearts bearing ‘Refugees Welcome Here’ placards, Hood some responsibly.
I will never take any responsibility for any of them, and strongly resent any of my taxes being given to them.


Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

 

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7 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Well if you want to voice your opinion that brexiteers are stupid, racists, didn't know what they were voted for, voted leave on immigration then go ahead, as so many here seem to do. If you want to be taken seriously then voice your opinions with better answers, as the ones I have just mentioned are used far too often and are incorrect.

 

Shouting down at people also doesn't help either and it seems to be a standard from politicians to posters here on TV.

I'm American, so I really don't have a say that matters.

 

Having said that I would think that the UK Parliament would demand another referendum and lay out for the people what exactly Brexit means to them and hoe their lives will be affected and let them choose whether or not they still want it now that they know the details.  May's comment about not having another referendum because they already voted for it is total BS as the public were not aware of what the details were at the time of the initial vote and were led by political BS.

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your efforts to refute the claims of racism amongst Brexiteers are being undermined by your fellow Brexiteers and their fixation on immigrants, Muslims and refugees:

 

It takes a special kind of denial to claim that Brexit is not supported by racist and that racists are predominantly supported of Brexit.

There you go again tarnishing everyone with the same brush. Is it to justify that you have a different opinion and to sound justifiable. playing the race card is cheap, very cheap. You carry on as your only means to arguing the reason people voted leave. It is an extremely narrow narrative and one that is unsubstantiated.

 

It would seem that this seems a justification that the leave vote is wrong. It is that narrow-mindedness that has caused the people of the UK to vote leave along with other issues. Don't bother replying as I wont to you. Playing the racist card is the lowest of the low and doesn't warrant a suitable response as it has been done to death here yet some still are trying to use it. What a shame.

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5 minutes ago, wayned said:

I'm American, so I really don't have a say that matters.

That statement is very true as I am sure you have not followed what has happened for the last 44 years.

 

6 minutes ago, wayned said:

Having said that I would think that the UK Parliament would demand another referendum and lay out for the people what exactly Brexit means to them and hoe their lives will be affected and let them choose whether or not they still want it now that they know the details.

This goes to my reply at the top.  It hasn't been implemented yet and people want to overthrow the decision.

 

So should people have another vote on the Election in the US because Trump is doing things what people didn't think would happen? If the answer is yes then we have nothing more to discuss.

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2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

There you go again tarnishing everyone with the same brush. Is it to justify that you have a different opinion and to sound justifiable. playing the race card is cheap, very cheap. You carry on as your only means to arguing the reason people voted leave. It is an extremely narrow narrative and one that is unsubstantiated.

 

It would seem that this seems a justification that the leave vote is wrong. It is that narrow-mindedness that has caused the people of the UK to vote leave along with other issues. Don't bother replying as I wont to you. Playing the racist card is the lowest of the low and doesn't warrant a suitable response as it has been done to death here yet some still are trying to use it. What a shame.

I didn’t tarnish everyone with anything, I pointed out the glaring existence of racists and racism within the Brexit camp.

 

”It seems that it seems”

 

Or put another way, I’ve said no such thing but you wish to imply I have.

 

I’ll take the objections of ‘non-racist’ Brexiteers more seriously when I see them challenging racists remarks by other Brexit supporters.

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11 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

That statement is very true as I am sure you have not followed what has happened for the last 44 years.

 

This goes to my reply at the top.  It hasn't been implemented yet and people want to overthrow the decision.

 

So should people have another vote on the Election in the US because Trump is doing things what people didn't think would happen? If the answer is yes then we have nothing more to discuss.

We have nothing more to discuss so you know what my answer is!

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Luckily not all remainers seem to tarnish brexiteers as racists. Maybe this will spread across this Forum. Here is hoping!

 

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/life/features/lindy-mcdowell-i-am-a-remainer-but-its-so-wrong-to-sneer-at-brexiteers-as-racist-old-thick-male-and-irrelevant-37463008.html

 

"Unlike the protesters, however, I accept the democratic outcome of that fateful referendum. I don't like it. But as has been said before many times, there already has been a People's Vote. And 17.4 million people won that one.

 

The suggestion now though is that we need a rerun because, unlike the Remainers, those 17.4 million people weren't quite... you know... as clever, or as "decent" or as important as Pret People's Voters.

They may even be the sort of people who eat pastie suppers and think nothing of elbowing aside genteel citizens in their rush for the ketchup.

 

The battle of Brexit has been divisive and rancid. But one of the aspects which I've found most disquieting (and I say this as a Remain voter) has been the widespread tendency - typified by that tweet but certainly not confined to it - to infer that anti-Brexiteers are somehow intrinsically better."

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/voted-leave-eu-racist-idiot-intolerance-brexiters

 

"Sadly, many remain voters care little for the reasoning or rationale behind the decision of Brexit voters. I’ve seen Brexiters being grouped together and called “idiot”, “racist”, and other derogatory terms, simply by virtue of being Brexit voters. Their rationale is redundant, and their motives irrelevant. The only thing being placed on trial is the positioning of their X on the ballot paper."

 

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Brexiteers shifting the blame again. That’s what you’re good at. Fxcking things up and then point on those who have to deal with your mess. Just to make it clear again: Merkel didn’t go to war in Iraq. The UK did. Take responsibility for your action. You caused this mass migration. 

Brexiteers have never made a war anywhere. They weren’t even ‘invented’ until about 2015.

Who was PM for the last Iraq war? Wasn’t it Tony B.liar, lefty and arch Remainer?


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1 minute ago, wayned said:

We have nothing more to discuss so you know what my answer is!

A true believer in democracy then! :cowboy:It was a statement not a question.

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