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On 2/22/2019 at 2:44 AM, 7by7 said:

Of course the sources and evidence I supply back up my opinion, just as the sources and evidence supplied by the more intelligent Brexiteers backs up theirs!

 

Your comment only proves, yet again, that you consider all research, polls, opinions even facts which counter your belief to be as you describe; whereas you believe all research, polls, opinions and facts which support your views to be rock solid.

 

Your mind is closed, and no one will open it; not even the disaster which will result froim a no deal Brexit.

 

My comment was in response to you calling ITN a 'self help group.' What I said was

Notice the bit in bold?

 

The report was not prepared for ITV by channel 4; and I never said it was. It was prepared by ITN for Channel 4.

 

Yes, Vote.Leave did complain to OFCOM about ITV, the complaint was dismissed: EU referendum: Ofcom dismisses Vote Leave complaint of ITV bias

 

Back to you old whinge; 'You're saying things I don't want to hear, so you are biased and I'll ignore you.'

 

Of course, if you actually knew anything about the MSM in the UK you would know that it is split virtually 50/50 for and against Brexit. Ever heard of the Daily Mail, for example?

 

Why is it that you have to label all Remainers as lefty when anyone who knows anything knows this is not the case. Some are, and so are some right wingers.

 

You provided a list and claimed it came from a certain website to which you linked. I couldn't find it there and when I asked where the list came from you refused to say. Why? What were, and are, you hiding? That you made the list up?

 

Yes, I have researched the treaty, both before and again after you faux pas. It pays to know something of what one is talking about (a lesson you'd do well to learn). I could not find your list anywhere. Care to provide a source for it yet?

No, I did not imagine them; they existed.

 

What! You claim to be a Brexiteer but don't know who Dominic Cummings, the architect of Vote.Leave's campaign, is!

 

70 million Turks, the entire population of Turkey in fact, waiting for the chance to flood into the UK a slight exaggeration! Your real name isn't Farage, by chance? No, can't be; he knows far more about the UK than you evidently do.

 

I never said that, but lying spin is par for your course.

 

I repeat something i said earlier, and you have, unsurprisingly, chosen to ignore, I have every sympathy for genuine refugees; none at all for economic migrants pretending to be refugees.

 

Pathetic; all those who do not subscribe to your views are far left fascists! 

 

Next you'll be accusing me of supporting Islamic terrorism, calling for Sharia law controlled areas in our major cities and demanding whatsername (Begum?) is given her British passport back.

 

Wont ever happen; terrorism is not to be tolerated, I do not subscribe to the view that one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Whether that terrorist be from ISIS, the IRA, the UDF or whatever right wing racist (yes, racist, your own words prove it) group you support. 

 

I'll leave you to polish your jackboots and iron your brown shirt.

Yes, my mind is closed to anything you post and Brexit won't be a disaster. Glad we've cleared that up.

Why do you think I said ITN was a self help group? No - that's your CSI (not the TV series).

For Channel 4, or by Channel 4? Whatever. The emphasis is on the Channel 4 famous lefty Remain bias.

Dismissed by OFCOM, doesn't actually mean that they were not biased.

Don't think it's my whinge, more yours. Were you not one of those who were going to ignore me? That fell by the wayside didn't it?

MSM is 50/50 for or against Brexit. Absolute rubbish. LMFAO
Daily Mail - that's now bit of a Remainer rag since a new editor arrived. Have you ever read it?

I fully agree that not all Left-wingers are Remainers. The ones I refer to are invariably both.

My list - you really don't like the warnings in it. Shall I post again for you? Pity there's nowhere to link to, which pisses you of no end.

Honestly, I've never heard of Dominic Cummings. You'll be telling me next that he was the driver of the big red bus.

Yes, 70 million Turks, so you can't be too careful. Was it you told Tony Blair there wouldn't be many migrants after 2008?

Whoa, are you bowling spinners now? You said MIchael Gove as good as admitted lying, which he didn't.
NONE of them are refugees. They are all scrounging migrants, except "the doctors and engineers and scientists". Where did they go?

Oops, almost fell into your 'racist trap' there. It's a deflection anyway - get back on topic.
Aw sweetie, you're doing it again. Labeling me as fascist, of indeterminate group and unproven, but you assume jackbooted and brown shirted. Good job my feelings are not hurt, or I may have to protest.  

 

   

 

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^^^^^^^^

 

Blah, blah, blah.

 

More twisting of my words and denial of your own with a bit of English incomprehension thrown in for good measure.

 

(Is English your first language? The huge number of mistakes you make indicates not. We all make typos and spelling and grammatical errors, but to think 'for' and 'by' mean the same! No native Anglophone could make such a basic error.)

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^^^^^^^^
 
Blah, blah, blah.
 
More twisting of my words and denial of your own with a bit of English incomprehension thrown in for good measure.
 
(Is English your first language? The huge number of mistakes you make indicates not. We all make typos and spelling and grammatical errors, but to think 'for' and 'by' mean the same! No native Anglophone could make such a basic error.)

Please feel free to go back and mark it for me. I don’t think you are one of those ‘English Teachers’ but who knows. Possibly a grammar nazi, but who cares?


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21 hours ago, samran said:

I guess people who don’t agree with discrimination based on nationality therefore  - to be consistent of course - would apply for tourist visas when going traveling in the same way those from countries who don’t have such flexible visa on arrival arrangements. 

 

Shlepping down to the embassy each time you want to go somewhere with rhemes of documents and financial statements. 

 

Of how liberating and egalitarian of one! 

I would be happy for all tourists to be treated in the same manner as each other. You seem happy to get special privileges purely on the basis of what it says on the front of your passport. 

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3 hours ago, rixalex said:

 

 

Regarding me, "crowning you a human rights hero", there's those delusions of grandeur again. I only pointed out that if you go around casually calling other people racists and bigots, it's surely a good idea to make sure that you aren't guilty yourself of discrimination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So below is a Thai Visa search using my name and the words ‘bigots’ and ‘racists’. Another misleading statement you’ve made about me.

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3 hours ago, rixalex said:

I would be happy for all tourists to be treated in the same manner as each other. You seem happy to get special privileges purely on the basis of what it says on the front of your passport. 

Avoiding the question as always.

 

Given you are holier than thou, more purer  than pure. Do you not take advantage of visa free access afforded you of your nationality? 

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8 hours ago, rixalex said:

I would be happy for all tourists to be treated in the same manner as each other. You seem happy to get special privileges purely on the basis of what it says on the front of your passport. 

Do you mean all tourists from all countries visiting all other countries being treated as what the UK calls non visa nationals and so not being required to obtain a visa?

 

Or the opposite, that is all tourists from all countries visiting all other countries being treated as visa nationals and so requiring a visa?

 

If the latter, do you practice what you preach?

 

Somehow, I doubt it!

23 hours ago, 7by7 said:

But as you feel so strongly about this, whenever you travel internationally you (will) doubtless always in future apply and pay for a visa, even when you do not require one for your destination because of your nationality.

 

Yeah, of course you will; when

Image result for pigs might fly

 

 

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Well the Hard Brexiteers may deserve a place in hell, but the FX markets are currently discounting Hard Brexit in favour of a softer version as Sterling still creeping up last week, so an appointment with Old Nick might be postponed.

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1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

Well the Hard Brexiteers may deserve a place in hell, but the FX markets are currently discounting Hard Brexit in favour of a softer version as Sterling still creeping up last week, so an appointment with Old Nick might be postponed.

I do love an optimist.

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2 hours ago, Spidey said:

I do love an optimist.

"I've been down so long it looks like up to me" Lawrence Ferlinghetti.

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On 2/24/2019 at 11:59 AM, samran said:

 

 

So below is a Thai Visa search using my name and the words ‘bigots’ and ‘racists’. Another misleading statement you’ve made about me.

 

Wow. Would you care for some fries with your pedantry?

 

Just because you haven't used the specific words, "bigot" or "racist", doesn't mean you haven't accused people of bigotry or racism. You have. Plenty of times. Here is just one example below. It took about a minute of searching by the way, before you start going on about fanboys and short-shorted men of my dreams.

 

On 2/18/2019 at 9:50 PM, samran said:

I’ve got a blue passport already. And brown one. The more rights I have from a passport the better. 

 

I just don’t go around blaming Angela Merkel, Brussels and nasty foreigners for everything. 

 

Please explain to me what sort of person would describe foreigners as being nasty, if not a racist bigot?

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17 hours ago, samran said:

What drugs are you on, i’d like some.  

 

Still duckng the question I see about you not taking advantage of your passport. 

 

To take that last paragraph to mean I think that foreigners are ‘nasty’ takes a really poor understanding of the English language.

I think it's you with the drugs problem if you took my comment to mean i was saying that you think foreigners are nasty. I wasn't saying that at all. I was responding to your comment that you have never called anyone a racist or a bigot on the forum, by explaining that it is possible to call people this without actually using those specific words. And this is exactly what you did when you talked in general terms about leavers as being people who think foreigners are nasty.

 

I'm not, by the way, denying there are sadly those people in life who do think of foreigners as being nasty. Of course there are. They exist in all walks of life, and your points and specific examples, including the poster, illustrate that.

 

My issue is ascribing a discriminatory mindset not to individual people who have shown themselves to think like that by their own actions or words, but to large swathes of people who you have never met.

 

As i have pointed out before, there is one prominent remainer on this forum who is a self-described anti-Muslim bigot. I'm not applying his mindset to you. He is just one person. No doubt there are other remainers who share his views on Muslims. Maybe you do. Maybe you don't. However, it would be stupid to assume that just because you and he are keen on the EU and think Britain is stupid for wanting to leave, that you too are an anti-Muslim bigot, wouldn't you say?

 

On the question you accuse me of ducking, no i wasn't ducking anything at all, it's just that we have been disagreeing on a number of different things and i was addressing those forefront in my mind.

 

I use my passport in the same way i believe everyone else does. If i am going to visit a country, i find out what that country requires of me and follow those requirements.

 

Is your argument that, if i truly believe in equality for all immigrants, i must insist on a country allowing me to apply for a visa even if their policy is that i don't need one, and if i don't do that, i must therefore be a hypocrite? I mean, really? Is that actually what you are saying?

 

On the topic of unanswered questions, i'm still waiting to find out what a "short-shorted" man is...

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