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EU rebuffs May, says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell'


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7 minutes ago, david555 said:

Was May elected by the people ...or.... just replaced as PM by …. Cameron's run away …? looks similar isn't it ?

We have more politicians in Europe just installed by politic party's …., do not compare with U.K. system …., BTW are your "Lords" elected ….by the British people ?😋

 Not at all the same, or even vaguely similar.  May is not a President, she is a Prime Minister and together with her government, was indeed elected. She needs to retain the 'confidence of the House of Commons (all elected)' to remain in power and as PM,  to remain in office, as she has by surviving a vote of no confidence a few weeks ago.  That's democracy in action.  We may not like it, but its better than any alternative I can dream up.  Oh forgot to add, the Lords is an anachronism and needs to go.  They also only have to power to delay legislation and even that power is very limited, not stop it, so not a good comparison . 

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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

With comments like this I never know if delusional people like this really exist or if this is supposed to be a joke.

why has it taken nearly 3 years not to reach a deal with the EU mouthpieces, the same non deal could have been reached in 2016, we would be 2 years down the line now

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9 minutes ago, david555 said:

Was May elected by the people ...or.... just replaced as PM by …. Cameron's run away …? looks similar isn't it ?

We have more politicians in Europe just installed by politic party's …., do not compare with U.K. system …., BTW are your "Lords" elected ….by the British people ?😋

May was elected by the people in a national election, as much as any PM is elected by the people, the PM is normally the leader of the party that gets the most votes

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15 minutes ago, david555 said:

Was May elected by the people ...or.... just replaced as PM by …. Cameron's run away …? looks similar isn't it ?

We have more politicians in Europe just installed by politic party's …., do not compare with U.K. system …., BTW are your "Lords" elected ….by the British people ?😋

as a start May was picked by a Tory backroom meeting

 

after her disastrous snap GE you could say that the plebs confirmed her

 

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39 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

His position and therefore he himself, is unelected,  he is appointed by other politicians, not elected by the people of the EU.  let's not forget, or indeed brush over,  that rather important point. 

Pretty much like the British Prime Minister then.

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18 minutes ago, steve187 said:

May was elected by the people in a national election, as much as any PM is elected by the people, the PM is normally the leader of the party that gets the most votes

May was not elected by the people. The people elected their constituency MPs. The Tory party elected May.

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

Pretty much like the British Prime Minister then.

Not a bit the same.  She is also not a 'President', but is the leader of the party that commands the confidence of the majority in the House of Commons, as shown by the recent vote of confidence.  

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50 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

not correct

you can

 

you can be in SM without being a member of EU

you can have a CU with EU without being a member

 

 

are you sure, back it up,  or is it out of desperation comment, are you referring to Norway, Canada complete different deals, do not mix apples and oranges

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5 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Not a bit the same.  She is also not a 'President', but is the leader of the party that commands the confidence of the majority in the House of Commons, as shown by the recent vote of confidence.  

Sounds pretty much the same to me.

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7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

May was not elected by the people. The people elected their constituency MPs. The Tory party elected May.

If British people don't want May as their PM, they can vote for a party that doesn't have her as their leader. If the British people don't want Juncker as President of the EU, they can do what?

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9 minutes ago, Spidey said:

May was not elected by the people. The people elected their constituency MPs. The Tory party elected May.

unfortunately for them but she had to fight for it didn't she?

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42 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

 Not at all the same, or even vaguely similar.  May is not a President, she is a Prime Minister and together with her government, was indeed elected. She needs to retain the 'confidence of the House of Commons (all elected)' to remain in power and as PM,  to remain in office, as she has by surviving a vote of no confidence a few weeks ago.  That's democracy in action.  We may not like it, but its better than any alternative I can dream up.  Oh forgot to add, the Lords is an anachronism and needs to go.  They also only have to power to delay legislation and even that power is very limited, not stop it, so not a good comparison . 

And so in the E.U. the elected ones gave a MANDATE to be President ….same for the other key positions , ….final word is the E.U. does in Europe their way ,and the U.K. on theirs ...and nothing go change that !

Your freedom to leave as planned.

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Why would anyone want to be a member of the EU, when that little club of unelected bureaucrats most probably wont even be around in another decade?

Madness.

Leave while you still can and dont give them a penny of that sixty billion GB Pounds either. 

 

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5 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

"...I've been wondering what that special place in hell looks like, for those who promoted Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it out safely..."

 

I imagine that the Brexiteers will condemn the man, but I think he his correct.

 

Implementing the most substantive public policy decision of the last 50+ years without a detailed plan is madness.

 

But, Johnson, Gove, Farage, etc won't be the people paying the price, will they?

 

I feel great sadness for the average 'man on the street'; they are the ones who will suffer the consequences...

 

 

 

Tusk is a very honest, ethical, sincere, man. He has conducted himself correctly throughout this debacle.

 

He's saying, albeit with his own similie, what many are thinking I believe. That is it's obvious those Brexiters who did so much shouting, about how wonderful it would all be, really had absolutely no idea, no plan and what's worse couldn't care less because they personally will benefit whatever happens.

 

Tusk also was the first senior European to suggest the UK should hold another referendum, withdraw Article 50, and stay in the EU. Something he really would like to see.

 

A man of vision and integrity, prepared to say what many are thinking but daren't say.

 

Pity there are none of his character in British politics at the moment.

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