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BANGKOK 23 July 2019 18:09
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Vulgar speech and gestures in the classroom

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One of the problems I have been dealing with for years is the kids I teach using vulgar language (especially the 'F-word') and gestures (especially middle finger) in the English-language classroom...They are good kids and simply don't know what they are doing or saying. I know they just pick it up by watching movies, or possibly even from their folks, but after decades of putting up with it I feel I am no an inch closer to a solution. I sometimes also worry that their parents might think they learned it from me...

 

I have considered doing a 'time out' for kids who do it, but I think that might just raise more interest in, and usage of, the offending language and gestures.

 

So I am just curious to know if anyone else out there has tried other solutions and gotten a positive result...

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i had the same thing when i taught in a Government school in Bangkok. It got to the point where even the Thai assistant teacher would laugh when one f the little angels stood up, gave me the middle finger and said "Hollywood say f### you"

In the end, Imade a point of taking the offending child out of the class and explaining in Thai that if they should ever say that in an English speaking country then the consequences could be very bad. After explaining I gave them one chance. If they say it again then we go to talk to the head of departmrnt. Say it again then i go to the parents.  

I also mentioned to the form and assistant teachers that i wasnt happy with children giving me the finger. If the assistant thinks it's funny then what chance did the kids stand.

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My son is 6. His class is a mix of Thai and luk keung. The classes are normally conducted in Thai and my son speaks very little English.

 

A couple of months ago he came home and used the phrase "What the f***". I sat him down and explained to him that it was a very bad word and that I didn't want him to use it again. I am bringing him up to respect and look up to me rather than fear me so he is constantly trying to please me. As such, he realised that he had incurred my displeasure and hasn't used the word since.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Spidey said:

My son is 6. His class is a mix of Thai and luk keung. The classes are normally conducted in Thai and my son speaks very little English.

 

A couple of months ago he came home and used the phrase "What the f***". I sat him down and explained to him that it was a very bad word and that I didn't want him to use it again. I am bringing him up to respect and look up to me rather than fear me so he is constantly trying to please me. As such, he realised that he had incurred my displeasure and hasn't used the word since.

 

 

Why havent you taught your son English though?

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26 minutes ago, Spidey said:

My son is 6. His class is a mix of Thai and luk keung. The classes are normally conducted in Thai and my son speaks very little English.

 

A couple of months ago he came home and used the phrase "What the f***". I sat him down and explained to him that it was a very bad word and that I didn't want him to use it again. I am bringing him up to respect and look up to me rather than fear me so he is constantly trying to please me. As such, he realised that he had incurred my displeasure and hasn't used the word since.

 

 

I do the same with my 11 yr old. This morning i told him how Everton got on last night to be met with a string of outlawed words. The thing is, i totally agreed, however, no i pad for a week for him now. 🙂

 

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6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Why havent you taught your son English though?

He's 6 and he's Thai. I want him to learn Thai first. Starting to teach him Lao/Issan now.

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14 minutes ago, nikmar said:

I do the same with my 11 yr old. This morning i told him how Everton got on last night to be met with a string of outlawed words. The thing is, i totally agreed, however, no i pad for a week for him now. 🙂

 

Yep. Ipad and Disney Channel are my main weapons.

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5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its much easier to teach young kids languages naturally .

My 3 year old speaks English as good as any Western 3 year old and also speaks Thai (better) and also local lingo ( a bit) .

  Many Thai/felang kids are bi-lingual and there's no excuse for not teaching them English and its also quite easy to do so .

   We were in a restaurant the other day and the waitress shouted out something in Thai to us , as we were leaving .

  My Boy said to me in English "You've left your sunglasses behind" 

Yea right OK. Are you sure he didn't say, " Hey, maggot, you've left your f***ing shades behind, you senile old git". Then I would have been impressed.

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Just talk to the kids and explain the language is unacceptable in school, or in your classroom at the least. 

 

You can't stop them learning the language, but you can help them understand when and where it's use is unacceptable.

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I don't quite understand the constant use of the word "teach" when referring to one's children speaking.

 

You don't "teach" your kids to speak English, as much as you don't teach them to speak Thai or and other dialect.

 

You speak to them and they just pick it up. It's not teaching at all.

 

I have never felt that I have ever taught my daughter English. Same as her mother has never taught her Thai and the same as her peers have never taught her Khmer.

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23 minutes ago, sanemax said:

 Well , kids pick up the local language naturally , hearing the same simply words over and over again and practicing with other kids who know a few words as their hear the words on a daily basis .

   Its different when you teach a kid a non local language , that he would never hear locally .

   I began teaching the different colours , numbers , animals , fruits etc , one word at a time . Once he knew all those , I began combining the words, "One black cat" , Two yellow bananas etc .

   And rather than just talking , you have to empathize what you are talking about .

"We go to the shop"

"We" point to me and him 

"Go" point to the shop , and go there .

Say "Shop" , when we get to 7/11 , so he understands what the different words mean and how they all fit together.

   Although you do speak to them , you dont JUST speak to them , you have to teach them individual words and how they all fit together and then expand their vocabulary 

 

Well I didn't. I spoke to my daughter as if it was her first language from the day she was born just as my wife did when speaking Thai to her.. Kids can easily pick up several languages at the same time. Why should they need to learn to speak in different ways? 

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My son is 14 and the neighbours daughters are 9 and 13.

 

I had to make an effort not to swear or use bad language. If I do, I say it under my breath.

 

What I do use are things like "You stupid boy, Pike from Dad's Army"

 

or "You plonker, Rodney" from only Fools and Horses.

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