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Immigration rules led me to attempt suicide, says long term Belgian expat

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This hot country is a cold cold place, emotionally. I hope he finds help, but this will not be the only one trying out stupid things and maybe succeeding. 🙄

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5 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

live the life in Laos

Yes.  I don't know why those who live the life have stayed in Thailand.  The time to move on was long before now.

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I'm the author of this article printed in The Nation and I just want to clarify a few things.

 

I moved to Thailand at the age of 31. Up until then, I had always worked in the IT field. Upon arriving in Thailand, I started an IT consulting firm and then moved on to become a freelancer (no WP necessary there, at least according to one of the honchos from immigration.

 

I never had any mental issues until 2014, when I fell into a deep depression and started suffering from acute agoraphobia. I stopped working at that time and started living on my savings. I left my nice condo in the Silom area and moved to a concrete box in Udomsuk to save costs.

 

Things started going better in 2016, which is why I decided to fix my legal situation by going to Don Muang and leaving the country.

 

Once in Vietnam, I didn't know anyone, all my friends had been left behind in Thailand. I felt utterly alone and swallowed 3.5gr of codeine, which, unfortunately, did not kill me.

 

One of my friends contacted the Belgian embassy which pit me in touch with their consulate in Hanoi. I met the consul who oversold me the repatriation back to Belgium, saying that I was going to be taken care of, medically and financially. I agreed to take the flight back home, met representatives from the Red Cross at the airport and they dropped me in front of a homeless shelter with no money and no social security.

 

It took me 3 months to finally be eligible for social security and healthcare coverage. In the meantime, I was staying in a shelter for the first time of my life. The first night I spent there, two guys threw another bloke out a second floor window because of an argument. 

 

Since then, my mental situation has deteriorated. Two years of living out of shelters will do that to someone's especially someone who's always had a stable life. I have no family left so getting help from a third party was not an option.

 

The past two years, I have gone through hell. I have now been in a mental hospital for the past three months and have started the process to formally request euthanasia, which thankfully is legal in Belgium even for psychiatric ailments.

 

None of this would have happened has I been allowed to stay in Thailand. I 2qs ready to work again and had a friend network that was able to help me.

 

Again, like I said in my letter to the Nation, I understand the need for immigration laws. But, like the recent changes to the immigration laws for retirees, I think they could be applied more humanely.

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3 minutes ago, wmccpa112253 said:

This story frankly sounds fishy and is short on facts.

The facts have all been posted in the post above yours .

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6 hours ago, Myran said:

The immigration rules are hardly the problem here. He should've gotten medical help to deal with his anxiety.

Obviously, Thailand causes panic attacks in Belgians. Call M. Poirot, tout de suite!

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I do not see how Thai Immigration had anything to do with the onset of your mental problems.  Did you get caught up in Thai Immigration's efforts to clamp down on Tourist Visa / Exempt Entry abuses?

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Forget all the bloggers think so negative on this website all the time and think they are medical trained to give advice about medical issues. There are a lot of good positive people on this site.

Many medical problems happen slowly over time and not caught until its too late to figure out.

I am sorry for your circumstances and hope you can get the help and finances you need. 

 

Immigration does not make it easy to figure out what's going on or assure they will follow their own rules from place to place. Most, I guessing, have never had depression, or panic attacks. Find help fast and think positive. Never give up. Think of your heath first. You are not alone.

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If he had panic attacks and it was a recognised condition then surely he shkjld have been going in anf out of hospitals fkr treatment 

 

I dont know about belgium but in Uk he would have been hospitalised.

 

Maybe if he seeked medical assistance first  then this may habe helped hks visa situation

 

There are allot of people in hospital technialy on overstay

 

I am not sure how they get round this and something i should look into 

 

I never had to overstay because i was in hospital  but i bet it happens allot

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I am sure that if the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs heard of this serious issue, they would immediately address it by hiring an army of qualified psychotherapists to offer their services to foreigners living in this country. The services would preferably be free of charge to those who need them and one's personal opinion would be sufficient to qualify for a 10-year-long treatment. During which time the participant would be exempt from any disturbing visa formalities that may worsen his/her fragile mental health.

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A Belgian man who lived in Thailand for ten years has said that the country's "harsher overstay rules" led him to attempt suicide. 

 

i feel like that every time i see the exchange rate for sterling. 😥

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If only humans were humane... sigh

(including all the Organisations's who says they are)

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All he had to do was fly out and pay his fine during the long signaled blacklisting amnesty when there were no blacklisting penalties being enforced for overstaying. Just clear you overstay by leaving and paying the 20K fine. The coming blacklisting penalty for those that did not make their stay legal was understood by everyone. :coffee1:

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