webfact Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Trams coming to "Smart City" Khon Kaen - and fares won't exceed 20 baht Picture: Daily News The long awaited tram project in Khon Kaen will begin construction in June. Residents of the north eastern city will, however, have to wait two more years until the project is finished. Daily News said that fares would not exceed 20 baht. The project has its design roots in local organizations without the need for state help. State help comes in the form of finance in joint ventures with foreign investors. Artists' impressions showed Khon Kaen referred to as a "Smart City". Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-02-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, webfact said: Residents of the north eastern city will, however, have to wait two more years until the project is finished everyone will be long dead from air pollution by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Why is it described as a tram project? I thought trams used the ground-level road itself. Surely the image looks like an overhead railway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Why is it described as a tram project? I thought trams used the ground-level road itself. Surely the image looks like an overhead railway? I would call it a skytrain.....a bts in Thailand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, fruitman said: I would call it a skytrain.....a bts in Thailand.... 1 hour ago, bluesofa said: Why is it described as a tram project? I thought trams used the ground-level road itself. Surely the image looks like an overhead railway? I don't think anyone in the local administration really know what they are doing at this point. Sounds like someone up high had an idea, some pretty pictures were drawn, and voila! The end result will probably be a dozen new air-conditioned songthaews that cost the community 2m baht a piece. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Given the Thais predisposition to try and run red lights at train crossings I would assume a proper tramway would be totally unworkable unless the tram rails and hence routes were fenced off from the public. Scooter wheels and recessed tram rails would make for some interesting scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Smart City?...Khon Kaen?......don't think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Katipo said: I don't think anyone in the local administration really know what they are doing at this point. Sounds like someone up high had an idea, some pretty pictures were drawn, and voila! The end result will probably be a dozen new air-conditioned songthaews that cost the community 2m baht a piece. ???? This is not a local admin project, the people behind it are local business men who have contributed to the project. I know one of the guys behind the project and it has only been delayed due to 'Bangkok businesses' wanting to be involved. This appears to now have been resolved and the project is set to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Not wise to use a western marketing tactic unless they can back it up...dubious at best....I have been stuck in KK traffic trying to get thru the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Why is it described as a tram project? I thought trams used the ground-level road itself. Surely the image looks like an overhead railway? Just read another article that cannot be cited due to TV rules that the "tram project" is called an "open-system" reliant on Thai technology versus a "closed-system" reliant on foreign technology like that used in Bangkok. So by definition the light rail transit line being street level or elevated is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Just read another article that cannot be cited due to TV rules that the "tram project" is called an "open-system" reliant on Thai technology versus a "closed-system" reliant on foreign technology like that used in Bangkok. So by definition the light rail transit line being street level or elevated is irrelevant. Ah, is that because they haven't decided yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, bluesofa said: Why is it described as a tram project? I thought trams used the ground-level road itself. Surely the image looks like an overhead railway? There are trains, and they are quite heavy Then there is lightrail, which is what is says, light trains, metro, using its own separate tracks but also operating on street level. Then there are trams, which are normally operating on street level, but also on its own separate tracks. Mostly even lighter, narrower and smaller as normal trains. The KK plans are tram rolling stock on lightrail tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, hansnl said: There are trains, and they are quite heavy Then there is lightrail, which is what is says, light trains, metro, using its own separate tracks but also operating on street level. Then there are trams, which are normally operating on street level, but also on its own separate tracks. Mostly even lighter, narrower and smaller as normal trains. The KK plans are tram rolling stock on lightrail tracks. OK, have I understood this correctly - it's going to operate at street level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 A couple of years ago they started doing construction on a bridge a kilometre or so South of the new bus station. No idea what they were actually trying to do but after a year without completing anything, they then started to construct a flyover at the same bridge. This has been going on for the best part of a year so if the new project is expected to take 2 years that will make 4 years of bl**dy roadworks just up from where we have our house. I'll be particularly interested to see how the new system will cope with the flyover, will they make it all the same height from start to finish or will the passengers be in for a roller-coaster experience when it passes over the flyover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, bluesofa said: Ah, is that because they haven't decided yet? It's likely that the government wants to avoid paying royalties for foreign tech closed-system rail by trying to develop tram open-system tech so it can be marketed by the government throughout other Thai-designated Smart cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Srikcir said: It's likely that the government wants to avoid paying royalties for foreign tech closed-system rail by trying to develop tram open-system tech so it can be marketed by the government throughout other Thai-designated Smart cities. Thanks for your informative replies. I had no idea there open systems and closed systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Smart city from the 70s ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 It would be "Smart" to raise it a lot higher to clear the smog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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