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Players who should have had more caps for their countries

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The amount of strikes in the late 90s that never really featured in the national team was incredible.

 

The likes of Andy Cole, Ian Wright and Robbie Fowler would walk into the England now. Yet I bet they didn't score more that 10 goals between them. 

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Mark Noble, Kevin Nolan, Le Tissier, Steve Bruce etc etc etc All should not have got more caps for England, just good English players that's it. 

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51 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

And again with Zola... he was a great player, but let's think about who was keeping him out of the side. Vialli and Ravanelli were winning Scudettos and European Cups, so was Roberto Baggio. 

I agree, Zola was just unlucky that Roberto Baggio was in front of him.

Even when Baggio was injured, as he was the "face" of a few millionaire sponsors, Zola never got a real chance in the Italian national team.

Another great player was Matt Le Tissier, also John Barnes was not so lucky with the England team.

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14 minutes ago, BangrakBob said:

how well did you know his sister?

And the Doberman 

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immediately bring Agostino Di Bartolomei to mind — who was in a similar-ish mold with respect to playmaking skill and shielding the defense quite expertly from midfield at the peak of his powers — even operating in defense later on. One of Roma's greatest Bandiera players with Totti, Giannini, De Rossi and Conti, captain of the club for several years (including the 1984 European Cup season when they reached the final) — yet never made a full appearance for Italy.

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Ian Callaghan only played 4 times for England 

Although he was in the squad for the 1966 FIFA World Cup, he did not play in the final and so did not receive a medal.

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31 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

immediately bring Agostino Di Bartolomei to mind — who was in a similar-ish mold with respect to playmaking skill and shielding the defense quite expertly from midfield at the peak of his powers — even operating in defense later on. One of Roma's greatest Bandiera players with Totti, Giannini, De Rossi and Conti, captain of the club for several years (including the 1984 European Cup season when they reached the final) — yet never made a full appearance for Italy.

Di Bartolomei was an incredibly skilled and intelligent player, but he was lazy.

I never understood why Giannini was so highly rated btw.

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Kevin Beattie

Frank Worthington (the original midfield fancy dan)

Glenn Hoddle

Trevor Francis

Roberto Baggio was neglected awfully by several Italian coaches.

Jan van Beveren, Willy van der Kuylen and Gerald Vanenburg were bullied by Cruyff and didn't play enough for Holland.

Bernd Schuster was a volatile character and quickly fell out with the German FA and coaches.

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3 minutes ago, chippendale said:

Kevin Beattie

Frank Worthington (the original midfield fancy dan)

Glenn Hoddle

Trevor Francis

Roberto Baggio was neglected awfully by several Italian coaches.

Jan van Beveren, Willy van der Kuylen and Gerald Vanenburg were bullied by Cruyff and didn't play enough for Holland.

Bernd Schuster was a volatile character and quickly fell out with the German FA and coaches.

Kevin Beattie?!!!!!

 

Somebody close this thread, it's getting silly. 

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9 minutes ago, chippendale said:

Kevin Beattie

Frank Worthington (the original midfield fancy dan)

Glenn Hoddle

Trevor Francis

Roberto Baggio was neglected awfully by several Italian coaches.

Jan van Beveren, Willy van der Kuylen and Gerald Vanenburg were bullied by Cruyff and didn't play enough for Holland.

Bernd Schuster was a volatile character and quickly fell out with the German FA and coaches.

Roy Makaay

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7 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Kevin Beattie?!!!!!

 

Somebody close this thread, it's getting silly. 

"Kevin Beattie?!!!!!"

"Kevin Beattie."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/18/kevin-beattie-obituary

 

"Beattie, who has died aged 64 of a heart attack, was hailed by Ipswich fans as the club’s greatest ever player. But a greater measure of his standing was the universal respect he generated among his peers, who recognised not just his great technical prowess but the courage, strength and application that went with it. His ability to win the ball and then distribute it with calm precision drew comparisons with Bobby Moore, and of his generation there were few English footballers more highly rated within the game.

Yet given the level of acclaim that came his way, Beattie played a surprisingly small number of games for England – nine in total."

 

Former Ipswich and England manager Bobby Robson called him the best England player he had ever seen.

 

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4 minutes ago, chippendale said:

"Kevin Beattie?!!!!!"

"Kevin Beattie."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/18/kevin-beattie-obituary

 

"Beattie, who has died aged 64 of a heart attack, was hailed by Ipswich fans as the club’s greatest ever player. But a greater measure of his standing was the universal respect he generated among his peers, who recognised not just his great technical prowess but the courage, strength and application that went with it. His ability to win the ball and then distribute it with calm precision drew comparisons with Bobby Moore, and of his generation there were few English footballers more highly rated within the game.

Yet given the level of acclaim that came his way, Beattie played a surprisingly small number of games for England – nine in total."

 

Former Ipswich and England manager Bobby Robson called him the best England player he had ever seen.

 

Apologies... got him confused with James 👍

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Ander Herrera.

Just 2 caps, i think he should get more.

 

I think Spain had to many good players in midfield

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Here's one I bet you never thought about 

I'll add Howard Kendall to the list, who played for Preston North End in the 60's and I think was the youngest player to play in an FA-cup final. He went on to captain Everton in the 70's forming a midfield with Alan Ball and Colin Harvey. Never played for England. Not even once. Unbelievable!

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John Richards of Wolves. Consistent scorer in top division yet Ramsey only picked him once and then played him on the left wing!

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