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What sort of a person hands over their passport to a motorcycle hire company


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23 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

For those here who criticize the hotel manager from the OP,

below his a reminder of data he must send to immigration.

He can't get them without your passport (or copy of it and all recent stamps and TM.6)

 

TM.30-Form-2.jpg

https://cochavenlegal.cocthailand.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TM.30-Form-2.jpg

from https://cochavenlegal.cocthailand.com/timeline/landlord-notification-receipt-tm-30/

That is the document that the hotel in which I frequently stay is kind enough to print for me to take to Immigration when I wish to extend my SETV. Immigration happily accept that in place of a TM 30 so it saves them and me time and effort. The hotel had previously copied the details from my PP and TM onto their system to be sent to Immigration.

 

To respond to  @NilSS the OP directly...... I think you are 100% correct:

ANYONE stupid enough to give their original PP (possibly the most valuable document you have when abroad) to any non-government official in ANY foreign country (not just Thailand) is not only a twonk but a very stupid one and probably doesn't deserve either sympathy or respect! If your business is running well without them, you really don't need them stressing you out!

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On 2/9/2019 at 4:44 PM, thequietman said:

Driving licence contains the passport number.

 

Why is that not acceptable, ye twonk ?

What sort of a being ..refers to another as a "twonk"....I would rather be what he considers a "twonk" ...than an ill-mannered brat of a hotel staff member with an exarragted idea of his own importance.

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I cannot believe anyone is arguing against the fact that if you hand your passport over to a motorbike hire company you are "twonk" (I prefer <deleted>, but I am Australian) or a jetski hire company or a car rental company or let your hotel keep it. I don't live in Thailand full time but I have never checked into a decent hotel and not had to produce my passport. I  never leave my passport with anyone except my wife or in a hotel safe.

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How many kind of twonks are there? And what is a twonk anyway?

 

I always use my Thai drivers license to check into a hotel. When they have that, nobody asks for a passport... 

 

ps - I would never leave my passport with anyone... a copy does fine. 

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On 2/9/2019 at 5:09 PM, NilSS said:

Beats me, but we're way out of town, so I think they fly in, rent a bike or a car, and then come to us, not difficult to understand. We're on a popular motorcycling route.

I think you're full of ****.

 

What idiot would ride a motorcycle in Thailand anyway?

 

I bet you are a gardener at the mentioned hotel.

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My UK passport says "This passport remains the property of Her Majesty's Government...........it should not be tampered with or passed to an unauthorised person".

 

Whilst I can understand that any vehicle rental company take a risk when handing over a car or motorcycle, legitimate rental companies would factor this risk into their business model and probably insure that risk. I certainly wouldn't want to risk passing over my passport to any unauthorised person, not have I ever been asked to do so by a motorcycle or car rental company. 

 

Hotels, under Thai Law, are required to pass on immigration details to the authorities, most of which can only be obtained from a passport, I've been asked for sight of my passport everytime I've stayed in a hotel here in Thailand, or indeed most countries in the world.

 

Some people may not like the OP's approach to his business model, even though he's right to abide by Thai laws and to stick up for his staff who are doing likewise, but I think he's taking a highly profesional approach.

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On 2/9/2019 at 4:46 PM, NilSS said:

Because it doesn't contain immigration details. Try to tell me my job again. . .

In the immigration online registration system only a name, birthdate, sex and passport number are mandatory. Registration will go through without the arrival card, visa type and additional details. 

So what are immigration details in your opinion?

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I agree, you would have to be a complete twonker to give your passport to a dodgy rental company of any sort. Judging by the vitriol directed at the OP, who has a very good argument in my book, there seems to be a lot of twonks on this forum.

When renting, most look for the best price, not the most reputable firm. I wouldn't think of giving my passport up to anyone, even the hotel. They can record the details they need, or take a photocopy, but must then return it.

I remember cases where passports held by these dodgy renters have been claimed to be lost, and subsequently turned up in the hands of middle eastern refugee claimants seeking to enter Europe. 

 

( Twonks - from the failed state of Twonkamania. An ethnic group now  scattered throughout all countries. TAT figures indicate 2.73 million visitors of this ethnicity entered Thailand in 2017. They can be found everywhere, and are easily identified by behavior)

 

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I have been asked for my passport on a few occasions when booking into hotels, doing banking and other such things. I always hand over my Pink ID card, and never once has it been refused. I can see your problem with tourists, but I would suggest you pull the horns in and try to be polite. Ranting about the problem on this forum will only attract abuse, and it serves you right.

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On 2/9/2019 at 4:44 PM, thequietman said:

Driving licence contains the passport number.

 

Why is that not acceptable, ye twonk ?

Your driving licence lasts for 5 years.  There's a 50/50 chance you will renew your passport during that time in which case it will not agree with your driving licence!!

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On 2/9/2019 at 5:06 PM, Peterw42 said:

Wouldn't most people book into a hotel first, then go and rent a bike. Why would people be running around getting a bike before they know where they are sleeping, or at least want to drop luggage before getting a bike.

Never Leave your Passport just show and take it back and or give them a Copy 

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