grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Asked the wife to get a double socket for the office to accommodate a couple of UK plugs, laptop and printer. Why is buying stuff here so sodding difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Where did you try to buy it? HomePro comes to my mind. And lots of small shops all over town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Where did you try to buy it? HomePro comes to my mind. And lots of small shops all over town. Yeah, ThaiWasidu..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 sure glad one is able to take the option of using aussie 3 pin plugs in those sq sockets! an unknowing newbie oz expat would have instead wasted a lot of OZ$ on kitting out with Korjo adaptors! another way for supplies, is to fill up, on the next trip down Sth to Malaysia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Does the picture shows what you are looking for? -> Indeed about everywhere. I bought such stuff recently at our Global homestore. And yes, there are many sockets that do NOT have this specific shape that "eats them all". No need for overseas travel. A four socket thing on top of my UPS. From Global, cost below 200 Baht if I remember correct. Has a lighted switch and a fuse as usual. On the right is a typical three pin plug as seen often in Thailand (from the PC power adapter). Detail pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 When using UK plugs here you have to be aware that Thailand has L on the left, so your fuse in the plug will be on the N side,and will not protect your equipment. Thailand E UK E L N N L regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, worgeordie said: When using UK plugs here you have to be aware that Thailand has L on the left, so your fuse in the plug will be on the N side,and will not protect your equipment. Thailand E UK E L N N L regards worgeordie Don't think any Thai electrician (555555555) would know, care, or understand L on left or L on right or what part the spare (E) terminal plays, other than to confuse them--remember Thai electrics are different ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Don't rely on N - L orientation. E is the protection for tripping the breaker on housing on voltage and still often not connected in Thailand. Better have an RCBO for critical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Don't rely on N - L orientation. E is the protection for tripping the breaker on housing on voltage and still often not connected in Thailand. Better have an RCBO for critical stuff. RCBO should be on all power circuits, I maybe wrong- but think RCBO is now mandatory in Thai wiring code - not that it really means anything to Thai's, followed, or enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, worgeordie said: When using UK plugs here you have to be aware that Thailand has L on the left, so your fuse in the plug will be on the N side,and will not protect your equipment. Thailand E UK E L N N L regards worgeordie Unless it was a custom build, no houses here are wired to the UK's ring-mains standard so the fuse in the plug is superfluous, regardless of the live/neutral swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, worgeordie said: When using UK plugs here you have to be aware that Thailand has L on the left, so your fuse in the plug will be on the N side,and will not protect your equipment. Thailand E UK E L N N L regards worgeordie If wired correctly and placed in the correct orientation, Thai sockets begins with live at the top and the universal death adapters follow this pattern doing their best to satisfy the worlds various pin polarities often with a 50/50 chance of correct position. The fuse in a UK plug is of course irrelevant here but will provide L-N over current protection whichever leg it ends up in. Universal 40 Baht plug and play death adapter with 50/50 polarity option. Also available with ground pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said: Does the picture shows what you are looking for? Nope, second plug won't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Finding a double outlet that fits Thai back-boxes and accepts two BS1363 plugs is going to be rifficult if not impossible. There just isn't room in the box. EDIT I do have a double adaptor (yes grounded) which has a switch between the two outlets meaning you can get two UK plugs in. Low power devices only of course. The beast in question, sorry about the crappy photo, it's rather high up and I'm not in ladder-climbing mode today, but I think you get the idea. The power block has a UK plug so there's plenty of room for two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Crossy said: Finding a double outlet that fits Thai back-boxes and accepts two BS1363 plugs is going to be rifficult if not impossible. There just isn't room in the box. EDIT I do have a double adaptor (yes grounded) which has a switch between the two outlets meaning you can get two UK plugs in. Low power devices only of course. The beast in question, sorry about the crappy photo, it's rather high up and I'm not in ladder-climbing mode today, but I think you get the idea. The power block has a UK plug so there's plenty of room for two. Yeah, I've come to the conclusion I'll have to put two, side by side. As an aside, I was delighted today on removing the Thai socket, to find a brown live, blue neutral and green earth. And the wire was 2.5mm2. They did listen after all. Mind you, one socket is on the lightning circuit. Still...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, grollies said: Yeah, I've come to the conclusion I'll have to put two, side by side. Check out the Haco range of surface-mount stuff, they are relatively low-profile but you should be able to get two of the universal outlets in a 5 position box (with a blank in between) and get a BS plug in each. EDIT Or if you go to Malaysia, Singapore or HK you can pick up the real thing with suitable boxes and do a proper job ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Crossy said: Check out the Haco range of surface-mount stuff, they are relatively low-profile but you should be able to get two of the universal outlets in a 5 position box (witha blank inbetween) and get a BS plug in each. I'll have a look, thanks. Instead of a blank could I lob in a switch? Be almost like home then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, grollies said: I'll have a look, thanks. Instead of a blank could I lob in a switch? Be almost like home then. Yup, switch (they're 15A IIRC) or a 2 pin socket. I'm not sure of the orientation of the universal outlets so it's going to be a look-see job. They're handy if you have a lot of chargers, five 2-pin outlets sit happily side by side ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, grollies said: Yeah, ThaiWasidu..... the male plug seems oversized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 53 minutes ago, manarak said: the male plug seems oversized? As is mine ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Artisi said: RCBO should be on all power circuits, I maybe wrong- but think RCBO is now mandatory in Thai wiring code - not that it really means anything to Thai's, followed, or enforced. Only on new installations and not strictly enforced. The only mandatory enforcement is on the installation of an earthing /grounding circuit to get PEA connection approval which is a bit redundant unless the neutral is connected to the grounding bar given 90 % of appliances only have 2 pin plugs. In the case of adapter units frequent plugging in and out should be avoided because the quality of the connection metal is so piss poor and contact becomes erratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankruatsteve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just a reminder that most appliances these days are class-2 equipment - meaning they do not require ground. Even so, they seem to come with Schuko plugs which make you wonder as Schuko sockets are not common. There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said: Just a reminder that most appliances these days are class-2 equipment - meaning they do not require ground. Even so, they seem to come with Schuko plugs which make you wonder as Schuko sockets are not common. There you go. Don't tink to mut. But many things don't come as class 2 - computers for one - "why do I get a shock from my computer". My fridge came with a 2 pin plug and a separate earth point - quickly changed to 3 core flex and plug for an earthed socket etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, grollies said: As is mine ???? You wish or skiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, grollies said: I'll have a look, thanks. Instead of a blank could I lob in a switch? Be almost like home then. all my power outlets are switched (old habits are hard to break) I also changed all plugs with pilot lights - very handy to check if powered up. Note the socket is L N configured as well - good if using 2 pin plugs and you are pedantic about L N connection and using matching plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 19 hours ago, grollies said: Why is buying stuff here so sodding difficult? Because you can't get sqaure ones. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grollies Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Because you can't get sqaure ones. ???? You can, just can't fit two UK plugs into 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, grollies said: You can, just can't fit two UK plugs into 'em. Yeah I know, I was joking about you can't get " sqaure ". Global house has them too but I think maybe because UK square 3 pin power plugs having 2 together it will overload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankruatsteve Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Yeah I know, I was joking about you can't get " sqaure ". Global house has them too but I think maybe because UK square 3 pin power plugs having 2 together it will overload. What is it about UK power plugs that 2 together would overload a circuit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, bankruatsteve said: What is it about UK power plugs that 2 together would overload a circuit? OP is only using laptop and printer so change the plug or the wall socket. I said maybe and maybe the Thai logic by the adapter manufacturer not knowing the size of UK square plugs or what plug in appliance it is. https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guidance/safety-around-the-home/overloading-sockets/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 This is the closest I've got to a locally availalble arrangement that accepts two BS1363 plugs, with a bonus 2-pin socket too. Unfortunately you can't replace the 2-pin with a switch as the UK plug just fouls. Whilst it doesn't fit IN a Thai back box it does cover a Thai box and the 5 unit carrier has holes that line up with the standard fixings. That said I think I'd add a couple of extra screws into the wall if damage to the wall wasn't an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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