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BANGKOK 17 February 2019 03:08
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Death of 17-year-old British tourist: Patong bike rental shop fined Bt2000

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9 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Who is to blame ? The rogue unscruplous vehicle rental crooks of Thailand or the stupid, mindless tourists, who loose all common sense when in Thailand ?

Both !

The difference being that one paid the ultimate price, the other got off practically scott free. Money really does seem to be the be all and end all in Thailand , how they think they are serving Buddha is beyond me.

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But why the rental shop to blame?  who was driving the bike must be riding to fast at a road he did not know.

He is to blame, not the shop.

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8 minutes ago, gerritkaew said:

But why the rental shop to blame?  who was driving the bike must be riding to fast at a road he did not know.

He is to blame, not the shop.

Because they allowed their vehicle to be hired Illegally.

 

And the explanation in the full report that the Hire Co hired to an older man who presented valid licences for both bikes is BS. Is very unlikely that a 17 year old lad from UK would have a full bike licence to ride any bike (they just do not take tests in UK at that age for bikes as they can ride on L-Plates until 18 then normally go for a car test or full bike after that age) 

 

Blame actually lies with the thai authorities for allowing these types of operations to carry on in this country but - Money No1... 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

If you read the linked story, the victums mate, a licensed rider, rented the bike.

I wonder how the mate feels now.

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32 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I wonder how the mate feels now.

The mate could easily be the other rider involved in the accident.

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59 minutes ago, Lokie said:

Because they allowed their vehicle to be hired Illegally.

 

And the explanation in the full report that the Hire Co hired to an older man who presented valid licences for both bikes is BS. Is very unlikely that a 17 year old lad from UK would have a full bike licence to ride any bike (they just do not take tests in UK at that age for bikes as they can ride on L-Plates until 18 then normally go for a car test or full bike after that age) 

 

Blame actually lies with the thai authorities for allowing these types of operations to carry on in this country but - Money No1... 

 

 

 

"Blame actually lies with the thai authorities" for not having any other affordable way to get around Phuket, without riding a motorbike. 

 

Sadly, just another road fatality statistic here, due to the lack of proper public transport.  

 

It's a disgrace. 

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11 hours ago, scorecard said:

Both.

Sad story for his family and friends, but true. If you take risks you must be prepared for that risk to go the way you didn’t expect.

 

Not just here though quiet easy to rent in most Asian South American and African countries with just your credit card.

 

I wonder if they have taken their damages from his credit card?

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Everyday there are people dying so after repair is business as usual, Who care as long as you are in Land!

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11 hours ago, leeneeds said:

 

Your insurance may be declared null and void if you:

  • Ride a motorcycle without a licence that is valid. 
  • Drive a car without a licence that is valid.
  • Are a passenger in (or on) a vehicle that is being driven by an unlicenced person.
  • Are under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs.
  • Operate a rental vehicle in violation of the rental agreement.
  • In any circumstance, admit that you are at fault, or offer to pay any money.
 

Onus is squarely on the hirer, how the insurance or third party is paid out on the hire motorcycle and damage to the mini van is an ethical question that requires greater control and policing, 

No licence sorry,  no can hire ! ( dream )

It’s the same for the many idiots in Thailand looking for these cheap taxi deals , has anybody even thought to check their insurance. They are private vehicles with ordinary insurance, which should you be involved in a accident and injured . YOU ARE NOT INSURED .

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7 minutes ago, pi2005ni said:

It’s the same for the many idiots in Thailand looking for these cheap taxi deals , has anybody even thought to check their insurance. They are private vehicles with ordinary insurance, which should you be involved in a accident and injured . YOU ARE NOT INSURED .

 

I have often wondered about the legalities of these "private taxis."  

 

How would a passenger know if the driver is licensed, and the car insured, and road worthy. 

 

If he's "private transport" it's as good as getting in the car with a "friend."  There is no Government framework of "official" control for this mode of transport, so who knows what a travel insurace company might do, in the event you are involved in a serious accident.

 

I suppose it's the same with Uber and Grab, but at least they "vet" their drivers and vehicles to some degree.

 

On Phuket, pay your "fees" to the "taxi association" and that's it, you are good to start operating.   

 

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18 hours ago, colinneil said:

Fining the rental company 2000 baht just shows how cheap life is here.

What do you want them to do ?

A stupid boy killed himself, why should they pay for the mess? 

 

  • Sad 1

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8 hours ago, Lokie said:

Because they allowed their vehicle to be hired Illegally.

Wrong !  It was hired legally by his older mate with a valid license!!!  This case got nothing to do with the rental company. 

 

It was stupidity from the boy and his older friend.  

 

 

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16 hours ago, puukao said:

i blame the kid.  and maybe his parents.  17 should not be unsupervised with a motorbike in the LOS.  too young.  parents should set the bar at 25.  parents should have researched how dangerous it is here.....really, it's really easy to find how many die on the roads.  but, oh no, it won't happen to me....let my kid have some fun in LOS and experience life.  no, bad.  

 

if you had a kid and they said, 'parents, i'm 17...gonna rent a motorbike in LOS... ok?  we cool?'   no, we are not kool.  lol

 

it's a dangerous behavior, and all parents know 17 is very, very, very young.    maybe i sound bad, but i actually want this to stop.  

Only got to post 44 so far so this may have been mentioned later on.

Who in their right mind would allow a 17 year old kid to fly half way around the world to Thailand essentially by by themselves or in the company of possibly older but still quite young other people? Maybe I'm old fashioned but my kids would never have been permitted to do such a thing. Plus they wouldn't have been able to afford it as they were still in school and had small paying part time jobs.

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Autospell sucks

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