webfact Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Brexit: What will happen in the British parliament on February 14? An anti-Brexit protestor ties an EU flag to a lamp post outside the Houses of Parliament in London, Britain February 7, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls LONDON (Reuters) - The British parliament is set to hold a debate on Brexit on Feb. 14 but this is not a re-run of a vote last month on whether to approve the exit deal Prime Minister Theresa May's negotiated with the European Union. May is seeking changes to her deal with Brussels after it was rejected by a record majority in parliament on Jan. 15. She has said she wants to bring a revised deal back to parliament for a vote "as soon as possible" but has not yet set a date for doing so. She has promised that, if she has not brought her deal back for a so-called "meaningful vote" by Feb. 13, lawmakers will get to debate Brexit on Feb. 14. Below is what will happen on that day: WHAT WILL THEY DEBATE? May will make a statement to parliament on Feb. 13 updating lawmakers on her progress so far in seeking changes to her deal. The debate on Feb. 14 will be on a motion -- a proposal put forward for debate -- about Brexit more generally. The previous similar debate on Jan. 29 was on a motion which simply asked lawmakers to agree that they had considered May's latest statement on the Brexit negotiations. CAN LAWMAKERS PROPOSE CHANGES? Yes. As with the Jan. 29 debate, lawmakers will be able to propose changes, known as amendments. It is likely that many amendments similar to those debated on Jan. 29 will be proposed, including attempts to shift control of the process away from government and give parliament a chance to define Brexit. As with Jan. 29, if these are successful they could have a profound effect, giving lawmakers who want to block, delay or renegotiate Brexit a possible legal route to do so. With the EU saying so far that they are not willing to reopen talks on the Withdrawal Agreement, other lawmakers are likely to propose alternatives to May's deal to gauge support for them and persuade the prime minister to change course by seeking closer EU ties or holding a second referendum. An attempt by Labour lawmaker Yvette Cooper and Conservative Nick Boles to give parliament the power to request a delay to Britain's March 29 exit was defeated by lawmakers on Jan. 29, but Boles said he would renew that effort on Feb. 14 if a deal has not been passed by then. The government persuaded many lawmakers not to support that previous attempt by promising them that it would not be their last chance to seek to stop a 'no-deal' departure from the EU as they would get to debate Brexit again on Feb. 14. On Wednesday, a Conservative lawmaker involved in discussions with the government about changes to the deal said that if May could demonstrate that the EU was willing to renegotiate, she would buy herself some more time and avoid a potential flashpoint in parliament on Feb. 14. WILL THERE BE VOTES? The Speaker, John Bercow, will decide whether to select any of the amendments for a vote. Lawmakers will vote on each of the selected amendments one by one, before voting to give final approval to the wording of the motion itself. Before the debate begins, lawmakers will have to agree to the proposed timetable for the debate, currently just one day. If lawmakers believe that more than one day is needed, the votes could in theory be pushed into the following week. WILL IT DEFINITELY GO AHEAD? If May succeeds in winning changes to her Brexit deal in the next few days she could bring it back for a debate and vote before Feb. 14, and this more general debate would not go ahead. However she is not expected to secure any changes before then. British media have reported a fresh vote on May's deal is most likely to happen in the week of Feb. 25 at the earliest. The government will give parliament another chance to debate the issue by Feb. 27 using the same format described above, if a deal has not been agreed before then. (Reporting by Kylie MacLellan; editing by Guy Faulconbridge and Gareth Jones) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Kisses, champagne and a romantic dinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On other party? Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickymouse1 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Chaos !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Perhaps pass a strong resolution stating "You can have your cake and eat it too". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 May either brings back a suitable deal, not her BRINO, to which parliament agrees. Or she could accept the will of the majority in the Referendum, stop trying to thwart the now legal position that we Leave on 29th March. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Perhaps pass a strong resolution stating "You can have your cake and eat it too".Thank you. While I’m at it, I’ll pick those cherries of the top too. It’s my cake. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Hey, put on your red false nose again...... It's Carnival time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, Loiner said: May either brings back a suitable deal, not her BRINO, to which parliament agrees. Or she could accept the will of the majority in the Referendum, stop trying to thwart the now legal position that we Leave on 29th March. The referendum does not specify the terms of leaving notwithstanding the broken record Hard Brexiteer nonsense claim of ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Emdog said: Perhaps pass a strong resolution stating "You can have your cake and eat it too". Didn't they try that on last time? Can't do that coming up to the deadline. Would have no meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, SheungWan said: The referendum does not specify the terms of leaving notwithstanding the broken record Hard Brexiteer nonsense claim of ownership. Breixteer's either like to pretend or genuinely are ignorant of how Britain's representative parliamentary constitution works. They cling to the result of an advisory referendum regardless of any thoughts of consequences or the detail required for government to follow and implement that advice. They actually clamor for something that the parliamentary system was designed to stop. And when/if they get it they'll be the first to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Loiner Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 The referendum does not specify the terms of leaving notwithstanding the broken record Hard Brexiteer nonsense claim of ownership.Come on, keep up. We are way past that agree terms and ‘it was only advisory’ nonsense. There’s legislation now that says we are out 29th March. No need for any terms in there. ‘Alternative arrangements’? Well if she can agree some before the 14th. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Kicking the can another bit further, hoping the iceberg will blink to the "Brexitanic"…..with same result as the Iceberg in front at SS.Titanic that time ,...Iceberg's don't blink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: The referendum does not specify the terms of leaving notwithstanding the broken record Hard Brexiteer nonsense claim of ownership. It didn't need to for the 17.4m who knew what they wanted from the onset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Baerboxer said: Breixteer's either like to pretend or genuinely are ignorant of how Britain's representative parliamentary constitution works. They cling to the result of an advisory referendum regardless of any thoughts of consequences or the detail required for government to follow and implement that advice. They actually clamor for something that the parliamentary system was designed to stop. And when/if they get it they'll be the first to cry. I have been elated for two years & cannot see it wearing off any time soon ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, evadgib said: It didn't need to for the 17.4m who knew what they wanted from the onset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Here's whats coming if they tamper with the date: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Apart from the referendum being advisory only, and having been manipulated, it was only about whether to leave the EU or not. Future relationships, including what happens after the 29 Mar, were never in the scope of the referendum or on the ballot paper. This whole “Brino” hogwash is an invention of Brexiteers to manipulate more. So, if the parliament really feels bound to the manipulated opinion poll of 2016, it should at least decide the future post-Brexit relationships without interference and manipulation by Brexiteers. Sensible proposals exist, whether it’s May’s deal, Corbyn’s five conditions, or some of the MPs motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, evadgib said: It didn't need to for the 17.4m who knew what they wanted from the onset. You are trying to play that broken record again. 17.4 of 66 million = 26.4% As pointed out not everybody voted for the same reasons or for the same "Brexit", we are nearly 3 years down the line and it is clear that those who still want a brexit can not agree on what they want. Vote Leave can not deliver on their promise of something for nothing, time to call it a day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Apart from the referendum being advisory only, and having been manipulated, it was only about whether to leave the EU or not. Future relationships, including what happens after the 29 Mar, were never in the scope of the referendum or on the ballot paper. This whole “Brino” hogwash is an invention of Brexiteers to manipulate more. So, if the parliament really feels bound to the manipulated opinion poll of 2016, it should at least decide the future post-Brexit relationships without interference and manipulation by Brexiteers. Sensible proposals exist, whether it’s May’s deal, Corbyn’s five conditions, or some of the MPs motions. Advisory only? Nah mate that was the old Remainer tactic. That daft bird Yvette Cooper got a Leave date stitched up for us in a proper Withdrawal Act, for 29th March. That trick didn’t work for usBRINO? We’ve still got Theresa working on it. Trouble is those Leavers are a slippery bunch, not a thick as we thought. They even read the agreement and found all the tricks in there too. Corby and the MPs? Our last hope to trick the population through Parliament. What do you think, but some of them and the ERG won’t follow the party line. They even think democracy trumps elitism!!I don’t know how those Brexiteers manipulated us into this position, but we’ll blame them anyway. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Basil B said: You are trying to play that broken record again. 17.4 of 66 million = 26.4% As pointed out not everybody voted for the same reasons or for the same "Brexit", we are nearly 3 years down the line and it is clear that those who still want a brexit can not agree on what they want. Vote Leave can not deliver on their promise of something for nothing, time to call it a day... Of course none of you have any idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jerry787 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 on 14th ? a secret sexy valentine dinner btw the pro brexit and the EU leader such draghi, junker and son ???? practically an political orgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Why do these Parliament think that they can change the EU's mindset ? You wanna row your own boat. well & good, row. They are not going to lend you an outboard motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Roses are red violets are blue the pound is doomed whatever you do love and kisses Donald Musk & Michel Barnacle ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Stop giving Theresa a hard time. She's always looking for a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Loiner said: Come on, keep up. We are way past that agree terms and ‘it was only advisory’ nonsense. There’s legislation now that says we are out 29th March. No need for any terms in there. ‘Alternative arrangements’? Well if she can agree some before the 14th. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Keep up? It is the EU legislation that specifies the date. Their 2 year deadline from the notification. And nothing (certainly not you or I) to stop Parliament enacting more legislation in order to ask for an extension or to forget about leaving altogether. You seem to forget that the institution (the legislature) that may decide to ask for that is the one that makes the law. And that the judiciary interprets it and decides if the legislature is acting correctly. Not you or any of your mates, not me. Never mind what anyone wishes for. Parliament will do as it thinks best for the Nation. Some people might interpret that as doing what it can "get away with". When push comes to shove, I'm not going to start a revolution........and neither are you and neither is anybody you know. A few "yellow vests" stomping around? Quite likely......but you can be certain that the possibility of that sort of stuff (and how to deal with it) was all factored in......long ago. Ciao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Loiner said: Come on, keep up. We are way past that agree terms and ‘it was only advisory’ nonsense. There’s legislation now that says we are out 29th March. No need for any terms in there. ‘Alternative arrangements’? Well if she can agree some before the 14th. Hard Brexiteers may prattle on about 'no need....' blah but terms of exit still in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 hours ago, evadgib said: It didn't need to for the 17.4m who knew what they wanted from the onset. Brexiteer mind reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, Jerry787 said: on 14th ? a secret sexy valentine dinner btw the pro brexit and the EU leader such draghi, junker and son ???? practically an political orgy Maybe TM will be seducing JC at number 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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