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Brexit: What will happen in the British parliament on February 14?

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Bring the bus out when you're desperate, do you believe everything you read on side of buses, I know I don't.

It always used to say India on the bus wheels, but even I knew it wasn’t going there!

Remainers and snowflakes are so susceptible to advertising. They’ll believe anything.


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42 minutes ago, Basil B said:

I am not getting desperate...

 

I just pointing out misleading propaganda, why not quote 51.8% instead of 17.4million? not exactly an other whelming majority, why not just say to the 48.2% "go to hell, we won". because in reality that is what brexiteers are saying.

 

Not relevant until PR supersedes FPTP in elections.

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28 minutes ago, vogie said:

But there was misleading propaganda from both sides, surely you must at least agree with me on that, but be under no illusion most people knew what they were voting for, whether leaver or remainer.

I would also have no problem using 51.8% as opposed to 17.4 million, both figures show a true reflection on the result, also I would have no problem in saying 1.3 million more of the electorate voted to leave, they all are figures that people can relate to. I suppose if you think that 1.3 million is not an overall majority, that is up to you.

One thing is clear we should think like many other countries, which require something more than a simple majority in any referendum, this should have been the same for the Scottish referendum, would make sense because then no one would be calling for a rerun, I think even you would see the sense there.

 

As for the lies, misinformation, distortion of the facts, scaremongering, etc, yes, I agree but who was telling the biggest porkies I think we will disagree, politics is a dirty business.  

 

"but be under no illusion most people knew what they were voting for, whether leaver or remainer." I strongly disagree on that, ask anyone who voted leave and you will probably get 20 or more reasons why, ask anyone who voted leave what the expected, and you will get 17.4millon answers...

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2 minutes ago, Basil B said:

One thing is clear we should think like many other countries, which require something more than a simple majority in any referendum, this should have been the same for the Scottish referendum, would make sense because then no one would be calling for a rerun, I think even you would see the sense there.

 

As for the lies, misinformation, distortion of the facts, scaremongering, etc, yes, I agree but who was telling the biggest porkies I think we will disagree, politics is a dirty business.  

 

"but be under no illusion most people knew what they were voting for, whether leaver or remainer." I strongly disagree on that, ask anyone who voted leave and you will probably get 20 or more reasons why, ask anyone who voted leave what the expected, and you will get 17.4millon answers...

You'd better start you poll now. Not much time left. 

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Nothing will happen on the 14th February, it is the 28th February that May is making her final pitch or at least her deadline until she changes it again.  She is running the clock down and threatening the MPs with a no deal Brexit or her deal knowing that the MPs will never allow Britain to leave with no deal.  

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54 minutes ago, vogie said:

But there was misleading propaganda from both sides, surely you must at least agree with me on that, but be under no illusion most people knew what they were voting for, whether leaver or remainer.

I would also have no problem using 51.8% as opposed to 17.4 million, both figures show a true reflection on the result, also I would have no problem in saying 1.3 million more of the electorate voted to leave, they all are figures that people can relate to. I suppose if you think that 1.3 million is not an overall majority, that is up to you.

More than a few people IMO, had little idea  what they were voting for at the time.

 

We have a few videos of Brexiteers ranting about Muslims and the like, and a few videos of (remainer) young people convinced that it would make holidays in Europe far more difficult.....

 

But I agree that there was propaganda from both sides, mostly the remainers IMO - and they haven't stopped 😒.....

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30of March: we finally get rid of the British, who always want "more" of the EU cake. That date, all cars and a lot of other Industrial products will fall under the "third country" origin, with result 10% import duty for every car into the EU, or in other words: finished with Nissin - Sunderland and a lot of other industries. 

Same for meat: not only a high tariff, but also...beef +pork no longer allowed, just as any African, or Asian origin. Only frozen from Argentina, an origin free of mouth and claw disease.

For me, I cannot understand a nation allows a 51,88 % Leave voters to destroy their country. But.. thanks, we will loose a lot of British competition. And many companies now in the UK to leave.. for a base in the EU. Bye-bye all that labour.

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33 minutes ago, Basil B said:

One thing is clear we should think like many other countries, which require something more than a simple majority in any referendum, this should have been the same for the Scottish referendum, would make sense because then no one would be calling for a rerun, I think even you would see the sense there.

 

As for the lies, misinformation, distortion of the facts, scaremongering, etc, yes, I agree but who was telling the biggest porkies I think we will disagree, politics is a dirty business.  

 

"but be under no illusion most people knew what they were voting for, whether leaver or remainer." I strongly disagree on that, ask anyone who voted leave and you will probably get 20 or more reasons why, ask anyone who voted leave what the expected, and you will get 17.4millon answers...

Those were the rules on the day of the referendum, which we all had to adhere to. One vote either way would have given a result of leave or stay and I'm pretty sure had the result have gone the other way we would not be debating about it now. Personally I think a simple majority is fine by me, if one side has to get many more votes than the other side, it seems a tad unfair to me, but that is only my opinion. 

As for calling for a re-run, if a simple leave or remain question is too complicated for the electorate, would it be fair to say that a document of 500 pages might be a little bit harder for the electorate to understand.

I don't think it matters who lied the most, a lie is a lie. Politicians are still economical with the truth.

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1 hour ago, vogie said:

I'm pretty sure had the result have gone the other way we would not be debating about it now.

:cheesy:

 

Brexiteers are worse that the mob from north of Harridans Wall...

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1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Nothing will happen on the 14th February, it is the 28th February that May is making her final pitch or at least her deadline until she changes it again.  She is running the clock down and threatening the MPs with a no deal Brexit or her deal knowing that the MPs will never allow Britain to leave with no deal.  

Nothing will happen Thursday, it will just get deferred another 2 weeks,  nothing will happen 28th it will be differed another 2 weeks, then another 2 weeks then...

 

As for JC he needs to wise up, we had a name for girls like her, "a p*** teaser".  

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9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Breixteer's either like to pretend or genuinely are ignorant of how Britain's representative parliamentary constitution works.

 

They cling to the result of an advisory referendum regardless of any thoughts of consequences or the detail required for government to follow and implement that advice.

 

They actually clamor for something that the parliamentary system was designed to stop. And when/if they get it they'll be the first to cry.

It's the former, indisputably

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12 minutes ago, Basil B said:

:cheesy:

 

Brexiteers are worse that the mob from north of Harridans Wall...

Take your picts.

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12 minutes ago, Basil B said:

:cheesy:

 

Brexiteers are worse that the mob from north of Harridans Wall...

I think you're wrong.

 

Brexiteers would have gone back to voting for UKIP - but not challenged the referendum vote.  IMO.

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8 hours ago, evadgib said:

It didn't need to for the 17.4m who knew what they wanted from the onset.

Why don't you tell us then? We know what you don't want, what do you want?

 

I asked several days ago if any Brexiters could tell me what they, themselves, personally expected to Benefit from Brexit? No responses.

 

Not only do selfish Brexiters not give a damn about others, they have no idea what they want! How dumb is that? It's purely tribal.

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