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Climate change seen as top threat, but U.S. power a growing worry - poll

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1 hour ago, goferman said:

It's been properly named climate change for nearly 20 years.

Welcome to the 21st Century.

You'd do better to listen to others than Rush, Alex, Donald et al.

Calling it Climate Change is actually a nonsense, as climate is ALWAYS changing. Global Warming was actually a better name as it indicated that something was actually happening that was different from before.

Everyone should remember that humans have only inhabited the planet for a blink of an eye in cosmic terms, and there is no guarantee that Gaia wants to keep us around, given our appalling record of abusing the planet, and destroying everything we touch.

IMO it should be renamed to "human created pollution causing our destruction if we don't stop it", so that people have an idea that it's OUR fault and WE have to do something about it.

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Climate Change should certainly be a major concern. Many civilizations in the past have been destroyed by climate change, although not always directly. Often, the civilization is weakened, due to a change in climate which it is unable to adapt to, and is then attacked by its traditional enemies.

 

A fairly recent example is the demise of the Khmer civilization during the 15th century. As the climate changed from the Medieval Warm Period to the Little Ice Age, the snows in the Himalayas, which feed the Mekong during summer, did not melt as usual. For a number of years, the monsoons were very weak, or even non-existent, and the reservoirs around the Angkor Wat region became dry, resulting in a serious food shortage. The local people began to desert the area in search of greener pastures and the Thais took that opportunity to invade, which resulted in the remaining people also deserting the area. The many temples became a lost city in the jungle, discovered centuries later by the French.

 

For many years it was a puzzle why an entire population had deserted such a large area of solid structures, temples, reservoirs and canals. Usually after an invasion, the invaders take control, or the survivors of the original population return after the invaders depart. Why did this entire civilization become lost in the jungle?

 

The study of tree rings and sediments in the area provide a convincing explanation. As a result of a major disruption to the climate, resulting in several years of dryness, there followed a few years of heavy monsoons and massive flooding. There was little incentive for the surviving population to return, so the cities became overgrown and lost in the jungle.

 

The key to surviving climate change is adaption. In modern societies we have the energy resources and the technology to enable us to adapt, and we have the historical data which tell us which regions are most at risk of floods and droughts, but economic growth takes priority.

 

Building codes which require houses in flood plains to be built above the level of previous floods, and/or to withstand the force of previous hurricanes in the area, are too expensive. By ignoring the real risks of a repetition of previous, known, extreme weather events in the area, a thriving economic community can be developed, sometimes without any major catastrophe for 30 or 40 years, then one year, wham bam, 20 Billion dollars worth of damage results from a flood and hurricane, usually described in the media as unprecedented, or a once-in-a-hundred year event which is likely caused by rising CO2 levels, or certainly exacerbated by rising CO2 levels.

 

Placing the blame on rising CO2 levels, and the government investing in renewable energy sources to reduce CO2 emissions in order to create the impression they are at least doing something to reduce the risk of future extreme weather events, allows the destroyed dwellings to be rebuilt along the same lines, whilst creating the delusion that the next flood or hurricane will not be as extreme.
 

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The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Run for your lives!

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5 hours ago, Ahab said:

The USA did not start two massive world wars, but we did help clean them up. Maybe the rest of the world has little idea about what is important to "worry about".

But the US has been in almost perpetual war ever since the end of WW2....and all of these are wars of choice, thousands of miles from home in countries that represent no threat at all to the US. I am really concerned about the US starting illegal and unnecessary wars because war is the greatest evil.

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5 hours ago, Ahab said:

Trump will be re-elected in a landslide. Global warming/climate change/whatever they call the next world ending crisis will be assigned to the dust bin of history along with all the other apocalyptic visions (both religious and other) that have ever been created. The earths climate has always been changing, heck 10,000 or so years ago much of north America and northern Europe was covered by hundreds of feet of ice. The cave men BBQ wooly mammoths over wood fires definitely did not cause that warming period and in all likelihood a great portion of the currently observed warming is natural as well. 

 

Before you start calling me a holocaust denier (I mean global warming/whatever we are calling this crap theory this week) please tell me how much of the current warming is anthropogenic and how much is just a natural cycle? If you say it is all manmade you are a moron.

 

The only thing I disagree with in this excellent contribution is the phrase "in all likelihood"....

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5 hours ago, Tug said:

Wow Donald has turned the USA from a beacon of hope and an example of a successful democracy to a pariah and a threat to the world what an epic dumpster fire of an administration 

And people on here manage to twist it and make it a positive.

 

Sad, confused, laughing, all at the same time.

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5 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Finally. The truth is laid bare. Irrefutable proof that the MAGA movement under the greatest US President ever Donald Trump has indeed made America more powerful. Just like it said on the box. How much more powerful? Almost double. What an amazing achievement.

 

I hate to state the obvious, but the word “threat” is not meant as a compliment, as a global acknowledgment of “greatness.” It is rather a reflection of the instability and recklessness of US foreign policy during the past two years. As an American, this is nothing to be proud of.

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6 hours ago, Ahab said:

The USA did not start two massive world wars, but we did help clean them up. Maybe the rest of the world has little idea about what is important to "worry about".

Correct... the USA did not start two massive world wars, but then, neither did almost every other country on the planet.

 

and correct, the US did help clean up, along with a large number of other countries.... they (USA) just turned up much much later than everyone else..... after being attacked.... so turning up to “clean up” was not from some place of good intent, but as a factor of self preservation.

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

The largest shift in sentiment centred on the United States, it said, with a median of 45 percent of people naming U.S. power and influence as a threat in 2018, up from 25 percent in 2013.

Mmm.... sounds like a new contender to join the axis of evil.

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6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Finally. The truth is laid bare. Irrefutable proof that the MAGA movement under the greatest US President ever Donald Trump has indeed made America more powerful. Just like it said on the box. How much more powerful? Almost double. What an amazing achievement. 

 And it is not lost on me, but what was once called "Global warming" is now called "climate change" after the theory of global warming was well and truly debunked. Can't believe so many are blind to this.

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Finally.The truth is laid bare. You are undoubtably a piss taker !

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6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Finally. The truth is laid bare. Irrefutable proof that the MAGA movement under the greatest US President ever Donald Trump has indeed made America more powerful. Just like it said on the box. How much more powerful? Almost double. What an amazing achievement. 

 And it is not lost on me, but what was once called "Global warming" is now called "climate change" after the theory of global warming was well and truly debunked. Can't believe so many are blind to this.

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Please tell me you are joking lol! You should be a comedian. 

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7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Finally. The truth is laid bare. Irrefutable proof that the MAGA movement under the greatest US President ever Donald Trump has indeed made America more powerful. Just like it said on the box. How much more powerful? Almost double. What an amazing achievement. 

 And it is not lost on me, but what was once called "Global warming" is now called "climate change" after the theory of global warming was well and truly debunked. Can't believe so many are blind to this.

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well written yes it is amazing just how many fell for it even the good General not game to use his 44 against it

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1 hour ago, Cory1848 said:

I hate to state the obvious, but the word “threat” is not meant as a compliment, as a global acknowledgment of “greatness.” It is rather a reflection of the instability and recklessness of US foreign policy during the past two years. As an American, this is nothing to be proud of.

As a American I am proud to have a President that want's all countries,especially China,  to pay handsomely for a clean environment,protection and fair trade ! 

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7 minutes ago, riclag said:

As a American I am proud to have a President that want's all countries to pay handsomely for a clean environment,protection and fair trade ! 

You want countries to pay for fair trade? Doesn't sound very fair to me, but I'm sure you can explain.

Clean environment, all this president has done is try to destroy as much of the environment as he can.

Protection, ok, we can have a difference of opinion on that.

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