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Climate change seen as top threat, but U.S. power a growing worry - poll

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5 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

Creating windmills and solar panels have environmental costs as well, just different ones. The fantasy of free, clean energy is just that - a fantasy.

 

Nobody's "putting people out of work". Green jobs are overwhelmingly funded by government schemes (Obama set aside $150 billion for that purpose in 2008.)  If the jobs hadn't been green jobs, they would have been in another sector.

 

Talk about simplistic.....

So give us a comparison between the environmental impacts of windmills/solar energy and any fosil

fuel of your choosing.

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3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So give us a comparison between the environmental impacts of windmills/solar energy and any fosil

fuel of your choosing.

There are hundreds of articles on that subject online. I suggest you look them up, I am not your personal research assistant.

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1 minute ago, RickBradford said:

There are hundreds of articles on that subject online. I suggest you look them up, I am not your personal research assistant.

You make a statement you can’t back up and now it’s my responsibility to do that for you.

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Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You make a statement you can’t back up and now it’s my responsibility to do that for you.

The only statement I have made is that solar panels and windmills have environmental costs. Only an idiot would deny that.

 

If you want to challenge that, go ahead. But don't expect me to do it for you.

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1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

What have I said that's 'racist'

 

Just because something is a fact does not mean it's 'racist' even if it does not fit in with a multicultural agenda.

 

And if you're so familiar with London why call yourself johnnybangkok, you should call yourself Johnny London.

 

What baby boomers do you know that have sad and pathetic lives. I dunno any.

Your post started with the statement “The late 1940s, 50s, 60s and early 70s until the effects of mass immigration began to take effect“. 

You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to work out that you are blaming all your perceived woes on “mass immigration “

That’s racist. 

I call myself JohnnyBangkok because I now live in Bangkok ......duh. I still have an apartment in London but have lived here for 9 years. 

And I know soooo many baby boomers who have sad and pathetic lives. They just want to hark back to an era that was never that great unless you were white and middle/upper class. The facts do not bear out your or their argument but you just want to moan, moan, moan about “we didn’t have to lock our doors, and back in my day things were sooo much better ‘cos everyone loved each other blah, blah, blah. Talk about rose tinted glasses. 

I for one can’t wait until you lot move aside and let progressive, forward thinking individuals take the lead on everything that really matters, because you lot are to blame for much of the animosity that now engulfs the West. From Trump to Brexit, you have a lot to answer for with your selfish, myopic, racist, fact less view of the world. 

Word of advice; if you can’t be part of the solution at least stop being part of the problem. 

 

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On 2/11/2019 at 3:45 PM, farcanell said:

Correct... the USA did not start two massive world wars, but then, neither did almost every other country on the planet.

 

and correct, the US did help clean up, along with a large number of other countries.... they (USA) just turned up much much later than everyone else..... after being attacked.... so turning up to “clean up” was not from some place of good intent, but as a factor of self preservation.

Russia  did the clearing up in ww2

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4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I cannot believe there are people who still peddle this crap. The Larsen Ice shelf and Greenland Ice Cap are melting at unprecedented rates. The flow of water from the Tibetan plateau glaciers will be halved by 2050, affecting millions who depend on major rivers like the Ganges and Mekong. We continue to pump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as if the Second Law of Thermodynamics has been suspended.

Not that I expect you to understand this, as you are depriving a village somewhere.

Can't help thinking most of us are coming at this "problem" from the wrong perspective. Rather than try to explain, I'll let these guys do it for me. Well worth a listen, whichever side of the climate change/global warming fence you are on - and even if you sitting astride it as a lot of us clearly are.

 

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8 minutes ago, Ahab said:

I would love for the fossil fuel alternatives to be viable and effective, they are not at that point yet.

In Australia, power companies are shitting themselves because solar and wind power are fast making their gold-plated infrastructure obsolete. Now they have to explain to their shareholders why they have screwed up so badly, while fighting a rearguard action.

Of course, Australia does get a lot of wind and sunshine.

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21 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Can't help thinking most of us are coming at this "problem" from the wrong perspective. Rather than try to explain, I'll let these guys do it for me. Well worth a listen, whichever side of the climate change/global warming fence you are on - and even if you sitting astride it as a lot of us clearly are.

 

These guys are talking about defects in modelling. They're right. However, the only part of my post which is a model is the Tibetan Plateau. The Larsen Ice Shelf and Greenland Ice Cap are facts happening NOW.

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18 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 In Australia, power companies are shitting themselves because solar and wind power are fast making their gold-plated infrastructure obsolete. Now they have to explain to their shareholders why they have screwed up so badly, while fighting a rearguard action.

Of course, Australia does get a lot of wind and sunshine.

And black/brown outs of the electrical grid. Solar and wind are great but require a backup supply (fossil fuel, hydro, or nuclear) to fill in when the supply from renewable sources is not available/reliable.

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33 minutes ago, Ahab said:

And black/brown outs of the electrical grid. Solar and wind are great but require a backup supply (fossil fuel, hydro, or nuclear) to fill in when the supply from renewable sources is not available/reliable.

The black/brown outs are caused by imperfect marketing of excess energy between the states. It's not a matter of insufficient generation.

Eventually, battery storage by individual households will push the power companies into hiking prices to consumers who can least afford it. Plus the fact we export gas that should be kept in Australia to meet our own demand. Meanwhile, idiots like Morrison wave a lump of coal around in Parliament.

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17 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think Wilco pops was being facetious.

 

I’m only surprised you missed it.

It's normal when posting "humour" to indicate that it is so, like a smiley, or a LOL etc.

There are so many humourless posters that unless indicated otherwise, I assume that people post what they mean.

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