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3 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

Young people have only 1 way to stay here long term, buying an elite visa. So shut up, your post is utter non sense. 

 

You old grumpy retires have it way easier than any of us. 

This is a misinformed post. Lots of young people stay in Thailand by virtue of the work that they do. Work permit holders are allowed to stay with no need to buy an Elite visa. 

 

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3 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

Young people have only 1 way to stay here long term, buying an elite visa. So shut up, your post is utter non sense. 

 

You old grumpy retires have it way easier than any of us. 

Not quite.

 

2 - get a proper job, with a work permit and pay taxes

 

3 - start a small business, get a work permit and pay taxes

 

"So shut up, your post is utter non sense. "

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Just now, Tropicalevo said:

Not quite.

 

2 - get a proper job, with a work permit and pay taxes

 

3 - start a small business, get a work permit and pay taxes

 

"So shut up, your post is utter non sense. "

 

Has already been discussed in here, you should learn how to read.

 

 

Retirees have all visa option these young hated people have, and one more.

So stop complaining old people, just get a job or start a small business.

 

 

Oh and i pay taxes here, i have a tax id with the elite visa. So spare me that.

 

 

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Love watching all these poor fossils complain. You guys didn't seem to care much when it was us younger guys feeling the heat.

 

Time to shape up or ship out Gary7616. Good guys in, Gary7616 out!

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1 hour ago, ThomasThBKK said:


My company works in IT and will stay in singapore.
There's no IT talent in thailand, it would be impossible to even setup a subsidy here.
I couldn't even fully own it without bs thai nominees.
 

I suspect that you have some narrow views and you seem to be a tad angry

 

I had a regional head office, for the UK software company that I worked for, in Singapore and I set up a subsidiary office in Bangkok. No problems. Lots of very good IT people. Great on the technical but lacking on the 'business' experience.

 

There is nothing difficult in resolving the issue of Thai nominees. My current business has one and I am hoping to give her the business when I retire (again).

 

I have happily lived here for 19 years with no issues on either visas or work permits. Just follow the rules.

 

As far as I am aware, the 800,000 baht in the bank for retirees has always been the case. It is just that some people 'flex' the rules a bit. The law has not changed. It is the application of the law that has changed.

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2 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

Any young western expat coming to Thailand to find a job would have less than lofty goals in life. 😞  

So you do not know any teachers, IT/web people, self employed etc?

 

Or are you just talking about young western expats who do not want to pay taxes?

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2 hours ago, Vacuum said:

They can get married....

Or they could get a legitimate job in Thailand, no?...

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But they did checks before not the swearing without checks. Its all about that the swearing without proof is just not credible anymore. 

Of the four embassies that threw in the towel, only the US and Oz embassies didn't require some evidence from the applicant as to the truth of his income statement. Britain and Denmark *did* request to see documentation supporting the income statement -- but apparently their *take* from the lecture received from Immigration was that they had to guarantee the accuracy of the income documentation presented by the applicants. This they, understandably, said they couldn't do, so they stopped the service. The US and Oz probably would have changed policy and asked for some evidence of income -- but when told they had to *guarantee* its validity, adios mofo. We're out of the income statement business.

 

We don't know how the embassies were notified about Immigration's new concern about income statement validity. Was there a written statement, saying the same thing to all embassies (but worded such that it could have several interpretations)? Or were several Immigration officers sent to the various embassies, each officer with his own verbal presentation? We don't know, but somehow four embassies heard "guarantee, " while all the other embassies heard "do your best to authenticate presented documentation."

 

So, here we are -- the end result of semantics, (mis) translations, and possibly different presentations. With 'business as usual' for the large proportion of embassies.

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38 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

 

 

I also feel extremely sorry for those guys, and girls, that moved here, bought a house, raised a family and provided well for that family, the goal posts have been moved beyond many  people's reasonable expectations.

 

Here's a hypothetical example: A guy moves to Thailand 10 years ago, has a long term GF, they get married, he buys a house and a car, they have kids he raises them well and sends them to a not inexpensive private school, so over time his capital sum is reduced by quite a bit ? No problem, he has pensions to live quite comfortably on, the exchange rate plummets due to circumstances beyond his control, and then at the drop of a hat immigration change the rules, the guy is now cattle trucked, he doesn't have the funds for a retirement visa or maybe even the marriage visa, who's to blame here ? 

 

I know what all you retiree knockers will say, but the guy planned for his future and we can't predict what will happen, so all this crap about inadequate planning is BS. 

 

 

    

I feel sorry for a child who is struck by a car.

I do not feel sorry for an adult who made his own life choices..

 

I guess on your hypothetical they can sell one of their cars or house and rent if they are so poor they cannot afford the new changes..

 

Have you ever surved in the military or had adversity in your life?

You know, adapt to change like a mature adult.

All of this is so minor on the big scheme of things. 

Grow up, be a man or woman, adapt to change and be an adult.

In the long run it may make you a stronger person.

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14 minutes ago, KiChakayan said:

Or they could get a legitimate job in Thailand, no?...

What if I don't need a job? I have a visa based on marriage, money in the bank and a wife that earns more than enough to pay all the bills if she had to. I'm not sure what's wrong with that or why ThomasThBKK thinks visas based on marriage are "not an option for legit people".

 

To be honest, I don't know why anybody is concerned about how other people are obtaining the visas they have.

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

 after nearly an hour of reviewing every document with a microscope, so to speak, and said no, I responded by saying yes. YES, you are going to do this. Yes, you are going to do this right now. YES, you are going to stop saying NO to me right now. This ends now. She looked at me and did not know what to say. I asked for the manager. The top brass came over, and we had it sorted in 30 minutes. Took nearly 3 hours. And as usual, it will be a month, until I have final approval. Is it worth it? NO. It is my last marriage visa. I will go back to a retirement visa next year, or leave the country, before I subject myself to that abuse one more time.

 

Yes, been there and done that many times, and they're always the same, it drove me to the multiple Non-o VISA at Suvannakhet, which is no problem at all.

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4 hours ago, robblok said:

Plus this is only 4 four embassies who used the swearing method instead of checking real evidence.

No swearing at the UK, they wanted to see and check every claim with documented evidence.

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