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7 hours ago, wobalt said:

So if you are on a marriage extension you are not allowed to work in Thailand anymore??


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Yes you can work. Tax returns showing salary earned/tax paid etc will be accepted.

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11 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Where do you get that from?

 

If your bank was the bank that TW used for the transaction then yes, it should show as coming from abroad in your statement. But if TW used another bank, that bank will have made a domestic transfer to your bank and the only information your bank will have, as far as I know, is that a domestic transfer came from Bank X in Thailand.

 

Now, Bank X would have a record of the incoming transfer from abroad, so one recourse would be to try to get a statement from them and show that together with your own bank statement. And maybe have the paperwork from Transferwise as well for backup.

 

Sheryl,

 

If what you are saying were true, then your bank likely would be guilty of money laundering. If you go to your bank, and ask for a credit advice for a transfer, it must show the original, beneficiary from where it originated. What they put in your bank book or on a statement is irrelevant. That is their own internal accounting system. It may very well be domestic from their perspective. But a credit advice will ALWAYS show the actual account it originated from.

 

If your bank doesn't have that information, they would likely get in big trouble from AMLO.

 

The key is to get your statement, mark the specific transactions you want, and then ask for a "credit advice" from your bank on each specific transaction. If it originated overseas, it will show up on the credit advice no matter how it was routed.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, wobalt said:


The problem is That the money must come from abroad not from your income ex Thailand


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Yes, true for the visa, but I think the presumption is that even if you are "retired" from work abroad, with a marriage visa in Thailand you can still work and obtain a work permit.

 

Of course you can always also opt to renew your marriage extension to stay using the Thai income but in that case you are better off renewing using a non-B extension because the marriage extension is more trouble.

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6 minutes ago, Monomial said:

The key is to get your statement, mark the specific transactions you want, and then ask for a "credit advice" from your bank on each specific transaction. If it originated overseas, it will show up on the credit advice no matter how it was routed.

Then what do you do with your "credit advice" documents?  Is the assumption that immigration will accept them?  They might, but I would not count on it.  Whether you "really do qualify" is not the point of their exercise - it is to find a technicality on which to deny the application.

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13 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

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Question on that one.

Wouldn't you have to conform to the conditions for the first extension throught that year meaning retain the 800,000 for the first three months etc.

Only on 2nd application and approval based on income could you remove the 800,000?

Edit.

As yet I'm still not clear on the way they will check the retention of the 800,000 after 3 months etc unless at 90 day reporting.

If you travel a lot you can spend a long time never having to do 90 day reports.

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11 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Then what do you do with your "credit advice" documents?  Is the assumption that immigration will accept them?  They might, but I would not count on it.  Whether you "really do qualify" is not the point of their exercise - it is to find a technicality on which to deny the application.

If the BKKB are required to supply all the documentation to satisfy Immigration as to my income qualifications then a Credit Advice Receipt from the same bank relating to the same requirements is all part of the required BKKB documentation. 

 

I know you like to tell people to 'use an agent' Jack but you're scraping the barrel to try and suggest Immigration would reject (some of) the documents the bank supplies that relate to the same request.

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FYI;  SCB shows this for foreign transfer

X1   FRCI,   just made one this week

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13 minutes ago, sumrit said:

If the BKKB are required to supply all the documentation to satisfy Immigration as to my income qualifications then a Credit Advice Receipt from the same bank relating to the same requirements is all part of the required BKKB documentation. 

 

I know you like to tell people to 'use an agent' Jack but you're scraping the barrel to try and suggest Immigration would reject (some of) the documents the bank supplies that relate to the same request.

I do not suggest you should use an agent - nor do I support their use.  I have said that it appears agent-use is what immigration is trying to encourage - which is a very different thing.  I avoided using an agent in my case (use a Visa from a consulate, instead), and I encourage others to also deny immigration a stream of corruption-money by any means at their disposal.

 

In the case we are discussing here, the solution is to use an transfer-method that appears in ones bank-book / statements as international by default.  That way, immigration cannot block your legit-extension on a technicality.  This may require using a more expensive transfer method and/or using a Thai-bank which can accept SWIFT transfers directly, rather than through an intermediate Thai-bank.

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30 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Question on that one.

Wouldn't you have to conform to the conditions for the first extension throught that year meaning retain the 800,000 for the first three months etc.

Only on 2nd application and approval based on income could you remove the 800,000?

Edit.

As yet I'm still not clear on the way they will check the retention of the 800,000 after 3 months etc unless at 90 day reporting.

If you travel a lot you can spend a long time never having to do 90 day reports.

You can also do your 90 day online where they would never see you, so I doubt they will actually be checking until you do your next extension. If they see you did not abide by the conditions of your visa, ie you did not keep the minimum amount in the bank, then they have grounds for not giving you an extension.

 When I do my next extension in May I am expecting them to give me yet another form to sign, acknowledging that I have to obey the new rules.

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3 minutes ago, MikeN said:

You can also do your 90 day online where they would never see you, so I doubt they will actually be checking until you do your next extension. If they see you did not abide by the conditions of your visa, ie you did not keep the minimum amount in the bank, then they have grounds for not giving you an extension.

 When I do my next extension in May I am expecting them to give me yet another form to sign, acknowledging that I have to obey the new rules.

Agree.

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So could I put 800k in a high interest account and forget about it.

 

I have money in high interest accounts now, but as I have done in the past I can access the funds immediatley, I just loose the extra interest, say it pays 1.5% they would only give me 0.5%, but I can access it in the same way I could my savings account?

 

Thanks in advance

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So a German and a Brit both receiving 3000 euro a month in pension go for retirement renewal.The German has an income letter from the embassy, the brit an income letter from the pension office.Thai immigration stamps the German without a euro being transferred to a thai bank?and the Brit has to deposit 800k in a Thai bank or make monthly transfers combined with a large balance in a Thai bank.In the past an income letter was not tied to deposits to an in country bank,still true?

This why your embassy f..cked you up.


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12 hours ago, STALINGRAD said:

So a German and a Brit both receiving 3000 euro a month in pension go for retirement renewal.The German has an income letter from the embassy, the brit an income letter from the pension office.Thai immigration stamps the German without a euro being transferred to a thai bank?and the Brit has to deposit 800k in a Thai bank or make monthly transfers combined with a large balance in a Thai bank.In the past an income letter was not tied to deposits to an in country bank,still true?

As a Brit I used to obtain a letter from my Embassy, operated by the FCO, that my Civil Service Pension, paid by another Government department, was of a certain level.
Now that the FCO isn't able, or unwilling, to verify my pension from another Government department, I have to use another method to extend my stay here, as evidence from my pension provider isn't deemed adequate.
To be fair I think it would be unreasonable to expect Thai IO's to have to trawl through various pension statements in a mulitude of languages, nor do I expect the UK Embassy to make an exception in my case just because I worked for HMG for almost forty years.

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7 hours ago, brokenbone said:

yes

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