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Marriage/Retirement - Interpretations explained.

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50 minutes ago, skatewash said:

You're right that would be the way to go... which is exactly why I think that's not allowed.  You couldn't just simply pop the lump sum balance into the bank for the last 3 months.  You would have to have that balance in the account the whole year.  Otherwise, what you're effectively doing is a more favorable lump-sum method without the nasty minimum balance requirements of that method and you're instead doing a nominal monthly transfer just to be able to use the more liberal rules of the combo method.

 

 

Again I got to be missing something.....

Which leads me back to my original question...does the lump sump component of the combo method need to be in the bank for the full 12 months prior to your application or 3 months.

 

Tanoshi stated this before...

Seasoning still required same as funds deposited in the bank method.

Whatever amount of funds you decide on, it should be deposited 3 months before the application, unless it's your first retirement extension application, then it's only 2 months.

12 months is annual, 11 months is not.

 

Sorry, not trying to score points here just get clarity

 

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So if you are on a marriage extension you are not allowed to work in Thailand anymore??


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7 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

OK thanks, so your from one the nationalities who can still obtain a letter of income from their Embassy?

yes

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12 hours ago, overherebc said:

OK.

When I draw it out as a table I see it. 😆

Does this fit for first application and leading to second.

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Why do you need 800,000 for 3 months before the next application (Oct, Nov, Dec) when the order clearly states 2 months?

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9 hours ago, Sheryl said:
11 hours ago, keemapoot said:

The good thing is that now all using transferwise should be able to have their banks prove up that that the transfers came from abroad.

 

9 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Where do you get that from?

 

If your bank was the bank that TW used for the transaction then yes, it should show as coming from abroad in your statement. But if TW used another bank, that bank will have made a domestic transfer to your bank and the only information your bank will have, as far as I know, is that a domestic transfer came from Bank X in Thailand.

 

Now, Bank X would have a record of the incoming transfer from abroad, so one recourse would be to try to get a statement from them and show that together with your own bank statement. And maybe have the paperwork from Transferwise as well for backup.

Well, with respect Sheryl, Tanoshi did mention TransferWise way back in his post on page 2, #20 which I reproduce below:

 

''They even showed me examples of local bank statements, then the same statement from HQ, which gave precise details of the overseas source of income, sometimes with pension providers names where they were paid directly into their Thai bank account, others as Foreign TT transfers (Transferwise as an example) and government state pensions paid direct through the bank of Thailand, which clearly state a Bahtnet deposit''.

 

Perhaps he come back and reconfirm that. Was TransferWise specifically referred to by TI O/P?

 

I am saving all my T/W transaction slips, so I shall be able to prove to the bank or TI that they are authentic foreign deposits, if they are challenged.

 

Many thanks to Tanoshi for his efforts. I think I can sense a collective 'sign of relief in Thailand today'. 

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5 hours ago, wobalt said:

So if you are on a marriage extension you are not allowed to work in Thailand anymore??


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A marriage extension specifically allows you to work. However, you bring up an interesting point. If you are on a marriage extension using monthly income from abroad which you represent to be retirement income, would it cause the labor department to re-think this policy? I think not. I think this has no effect on ability to get a work permit because the labor department has no visibility into your visa qualifications I believe.

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31 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Why do you need 800,000 for 3 months before the next application (Oct, Nov, Dec) when the order clearly states 2 months?

Same as the old system. First time 2 months prior to application all following applications 3 months.

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Just now, overherebc said:

Same as the old system. First time 2 months prior to application all following applications 3 months.

Well actually it isn't but hey, no harm having it the extra month, some offices maybe didn't get the memo and they sure won't be told!

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9 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Well actually it isn't but hey, no harm having it the extra month, some offices maybe didn't get the memo and they sure won't be told!

Read the OP carefully at 2.22.

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5 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Read the OP carefully.

And completely ignore what the translation of order 35/2561 (Date:  30 January 2019) actually says? What a fiasco!

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Just an observation on International Transfer codes.

This relates specifically to TMB.

 

International transfers (deposits) send via SWIFT from Barclays UK to my TMB Savings Account show the following codes:

 

In the passbook the code is NT, which is simply listed as 'Transfer' with no indication that it is international.

The code shown on on-line statements is EXIM which, I believe, relates to transfers via the Thailand Export/Import bank.  It should be obvious that this is an international transfer but what would an IO make of it, I wonder?

 

There seems little point in regularly updating the passbook if it doesn't show international codes.  I normally update very infrequently as there is no TMB branch close by.  Some individual transfers do appear - with NT code - but mainly I just see an SC (Summary Credit) code.

 

Any comments?

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question:
I have already decided that I will do the 800,000 for my next renewal ( due July) I have also decided to leave after this next year> Before my 2nd extension s due (say end of June 2020)
Can i take out most of my baht from the bank ?
Will i have any hassles if i need go to immigration during that year? ( say i need a re entry permit and on return file a TM 30)
Will immigration EVER during the year ask to see my bank book?

 

Thanks

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10 minutes ago, phuketrichard said:

question:
I have already decided that I will do the 800,000 for my next renewal ( due July) I have also decided to leave after this next year> Before my 2nd extension s due (say end of June 2020)
Can i take out most of my baht from the bank ?
Will i have any hassles if i need go to immigration during that year? ( say i need a re entry permit and on return file a TM 30)
Will immigration EVER during the year ask to see my bank book?

 

Thanks

If you aren't due to do the Extension until July we are likely to have a better idea by then how regional offices are policing the new requirements if indeed they do at all during the current extension term. Most seem to think it will all be well checked at the time of a subsequent extension application.

Sentiment seems to support that you will not have reason for concern.

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A marriage extension specifically allows you to work. However, you bring up an interesting point. If you are on a marriage extension using monthly income from abroad which you represent to be retirement income, would it cause the labor department to re-think this policy? I think not. I think this has no effect on ability to get a work permit because the labor department has no visibility into your visa qualifications I believe.

The problem is That the money must come from abroad not from your income ex Thailand


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