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39 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Yes, quite, "the pot calling the kettle black" for immigration to complain - but I would expect it.  Some of them see racket-running using their "interpretations" to block legit-applications as their right - while we have no rights.

 

That would be more like 35K Baht plus "emergency only" medical-insurance (not outpatient, etc).

 

It was never the meaning, until they decided to retroactively alter history, and claim "income" meant "income all sent to Thailand," and anyone not doing this was exploiting a "loophole."

 

Depends on the office / IO's "interpretation" - of course.

 

You are from North Africa or the Middle-East?  Read up on the history of slavery, and quit blaming the cultures that were the first on Earth to outlaw it - and many other unsavory practices.  Howard Zinn is fine for one perspective, but doesn't tell the "rest of the story" by any stretch.

 

No, but the IO can ask for "Secondary documentation" of your income - doing this even with embassy-letters, at some offices. 

 

No.  All immigration did was make ALL students - legit and not-legit - pay extra "hassle free 90-day extension" fees through their schools or an agent 3 times/yr.  The entire "crackdown" was nothing but a ruse to raise more corruption money - and has been operating this way ever since. 

 

Given the big-name agents were not rounded up, and the IOs who work with them are not on TV, I suspect what is happening now with retirement-extensions is more of the same.

 

The "show transfers" method is so clearly open to money-rotation, I can only think it was proposed with the intent to be canceled shortly via, "See, they are abusing the system."  When that happens, another chunk of expats can be shoved into the agent-fee paying category.

There is no show transfers method, it is the show income rule.

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What an amazing way to make immigration once again clamp down on people who actually abide by the rules. An amazing "solution" indeed...

 

This is the kind of crap that will make them tighten the rules even more. Wouldn't surprise me if they remove the income method all together if people start pulling obvious stunts like this. They won't care if you believe you are "technically" following the rules (which you aren't even doing, since the transfer is supposed to verify your actual income).

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39 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

And how would sending money back and forth comply with the 65000 thb INCOME rule?

Send the same 65k in on the fist of the month, send it home again , then send the same 65k back on the first of the next month, repeat 12 times a year

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Just now, Peterw42 said:

Send the same 65k in on the fist of the month, send it home again , then send the same 65k back on the first of the next month, repeat 12 times a year

That same 65K would rapidly diminish as transfer charges are applied each time it is moved.

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8 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

not sure why a six minute youtube video is needed to make a ten second suggestion that could be written in a few words.

 

Money , he earns money on Youtube clicks . You just helped him by watching it. 

 

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4 hours ago, elviajero said:

Your idea does not comply with those conditions and is fraud. So don’t claim otherwise.

 

To be clear. The fraud is obtaining an extension by deception.

It's actually better to use an agent and borrow 800k. Immigration officials approve. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Christophers200 said:

That same 65K would rapidly diminish as transfer charges are applied each time it is moved.

Read my original post #8 ,discussing banks like citibank that do fee free transfers between citibank accounts in different countries. if both accounts are the same currency then no exchange losses either.

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8 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Send the same 65k in on the fist of the month, send it home again , then send the same 65k back on the first of the next month, repeat 12 times a year

Maybe a group of friends could get together, pool their money and then recycle the combined income to each of their accounts in turn, staggered over the month. As many as 15 could join in at around 5k a pop. What could possibly go wrong? 

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1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

Read my original post #8 ,discussing banks like citibank that do fee free transfers between citibank accounts in different countries.

Not everyone banks with Citibank -- and I responded to your comment #39 which makes no mention of Citibank which only has branches in Bangkok.

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The issue also seems (according to other threads and immigration documents provided to the person who opened the thread) to be that when using the income method - from 2020 the money must be from a pension and also verified by your Embassy which some Embassies have already stopped doing.

 

What a cluster&^*k - I do use the money in the bank method but this is still annoying as no doubt the 800k figure will increase.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Send the same 65k in on the fist of the month, send it home again , then send the same 65k back on the first of the next month, repeat 12 times a year

Then your 65K is NOT income.

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you must have seen the bright light to come up with such a non sense topic, been there, done that and you may end up in jail and expelled

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18 minutes ago, balo said:

 

Money , he earns money on Youtube clicks . You just helped him by watching it. 

 

At 227 clicks currently, he's racked up a handsome profit of 23 cents. Glass half full though, if he gets two million clicks it'd raise around 65k... 

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