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2 hours ago, baansgr said:

How are funds transferred back to host country. 24x transfer payments plus loss on XE, how much per annum does that cost.

You already had to make 12 xfers, anyway, if going the income route.  I think someone quoted 200 Baht per-each for Dee Money, w/ 1st one free? 

 

2 hours ago, indepth said:

How could you disguise the money as being from a Govt Pension. You  need to keep up with the latest gossip. 

Photoshop a pension document?

 

Let's face it, all immigration had to do was refer for prosecution anyone caught lying on stat-docs, instead of fantasizing about embassies tracing back multiple types of payment-sources, and they could have kept a much more formidable deterrent to fraud of this sort.  Faking income on embassy-letters was a felony-lie (AU, USA - not sure about UK) - while this "show transfers" routine is so easy to work around, anyone who ever read a crime-novel can figure out the obvious workaround.

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I fail to see why this is so difficult. If the OP is bringing in 65K per month, and only spending 45K, why not just save the excess and every ten months buy a 10 baht gold bar? Negotiable anywhere in Thailand, and at a discount anywhere else.

I have not seen a regulation in any country which requires incoming passengers to declare gold in their possession. Although I understand in the US, for some time it was illegal to own gold.

 

 

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11 hours ago, elviajero said:

Expats can do whatever they want! This idea could work for some, and good luck to them.

 

My point is that when they do it they should understand they are committing fraud. The OP’s claim that this is 100% legit is 100% wrong.

   How is it fraud , OP  brings the required amount into Thailand ,

     what he does  with that money is up to him . 

      A far better option than having a dodgy illegal  extension , using so called visa agents .

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, tropo said:

The main problem remains that not all immigration offices will accept the monthly deposit method. Unless something has changed, Jomtien told one person who enquired last month that they would not accept monthly deposits for retirement extensions.

So 800k semi-permanently seasoned in the bank is now the exclusively strict order of the day for retirement extensions at Jomtien, is it?

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1 minute ago, OJAS said:
20 hours ago, tropo said:

The main problem remains that not all immigration offices will accept the monthly deposit method. Unless something has changed, Jomtien told one person who enquired last month that they would not accept monthly deposits for retirement extensions.

So 800k semi-permanently seasoned in the bank is now the exclusively strict order of the day for retirement extensions at Jomtien, is it?

No. Jomtien will now have the same instructions as all the other offices about how to process the new options.

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15 hours ago, elviajero said:

What abuse would that be.

 

No he doesn’t. He nearly always gives correct visa info.

 

Give me an example of incorrect advice I’ve given, I’m always happy to learn.

" No. There is nothing, so far, to suggest they want proof of the source of the income. This creates a loophole that people will now exploit. ".

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25 minutes ago, indepth said:
15 hours ago, elviajero said:

What abuse would that be.

 

No he doesn’t. He nearly always gives correct visa info.

 

Give me an example of incorrect advice I’ve given, I’m always happy to learn.

" No. There is nothing, so far, to suggest they want proof of the source of the income. This creates a loophole that people will now exploit. ".

How is that incorrect?

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17 hours ago, elviajero said:

No. Jomtien will now have the same instructions as all the other offices about how to process the new options.

Do you have a link to the report that mentioned this? The last report I read indicated they were not going to allow monthly deposits as proof of income. That was late last month. Most of these income threads become so long it's easy to miss new reports.

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3 minutes ago, tropo said:

Do you have a link to the report that mentioned this? The last report I read indicated they were not going to allow monthly deposits as proof of income. That was late last month. Most of these income threads become so long it's easy to miss new reports.

The amendment to police order 138/2557 issued on December 21st clearly states you can use 12 months of transfers into the country to apply for an extension. Probably from a immigration officer that was not aware of the new rules.

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5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The amendment to police order 138/2557 issued on December 21st clearly states you can use 12 months of transfers into the country to apply for an extension. Probably from a immigration officer that was not aware of the new rules.

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I'm aware of the police order, but after that was reported, one member went to Jomtien to enquire about it and they told him the monthly deposit option would not be allowed (note: at Jomtien). This was a report from late last month. I can't put my finger on it as it has been lost under a mountain of threads on this topic.

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5 minutes ago, tropo said:

I'm aware of the police order, but after that was reported, one member went to Jomtien to enquire about it and they told him the monthly deposit option would not be allowed (note: at Jomtien). This was a report from late last month. I can't put my finger on it as it has been lost under a mountain of threads on this topic.

That might have been a post wrt Phetchabun by @billsmart

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7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

That might have been a post wrt Phetchabun by @billsmart

No, it was about a member who went into the Jomtien office and asked the guys upstairs. What I'm specifically after is information about the Jomtien office. Elviajero has suggested above that Jomtien has joined the party (allow monthly deposits), but I would like some confirmation from other reports.

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19 hours ago, elliss said:

   How is it fraud , OP  brings the required amount into Thailand ,

     what he does  with that money is up to him . 

      A far better option than having a dodgy illegal  extension , using so called visa agents .

 

 

 

Using an Agent now is not a good route, if immigration ask to see your funds what do you do, Panic, if they ask to see my book using this method they see 65,000 per month no problem.? I have to add I am doing the Marriage visa route as I have 45,000 into my account every month, this was a suggestion to help others, as many people have said I am not doing anything Illegal I am doing what is required as can many other people, the main reason why i suggested it was for us people who cant afford to have 400,000 Baht sat in a bank doing nothing here, this a way of getting what you want LEGALLY. It if Far Far more legal than using an agent. On the question of Income, as long as you transfer 65,000 per month from overseas they don't care how you got it some people say it has to be a pension, why, what about the people who rent their houses as income are you telling me these people will be excluded.

A good video to watch is Kev in Thailand there is a place in Thailand for Cheap Charlies. Or do the Elite who stay here want Thailand all to themselves.

Thank you all for your reply's.

 

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3 hours ago, Leslie850 said:

Using an Agent now is not a good route, if immigration ask to see your funds what do you do,

The point of an agent (or going out for a Visa, like I do), is to not deal with immigration. 

 

3 hours ago, Leslie850 said:

On the question of Income, as long as you transfer 65,000 per month from overseas they don't care how you got it some people say it has to be a pension, why, what about the people who rent their houses as income are you telling me these people will be excluded.

They should not care - money is money.  They play this game, to force you to an agent.  They have excluded me this way, because I am not old enough to get a "pension" yet.

 

3 hours ago, Leslie850 said:

Or do the Elite who stay here want Thailand all to themselves.

Some - yes.  The, "I saw this poor old farang eating cheap soup along a street..." remarks give it away.  And the people controlling immigration-policy seem to share their perspective - that soup-vendor should be back on his farm scraping-by, not making better money.

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