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'He is a free man' - refugee Bahraini footballer heads home to Australia

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6 hours ago, ChipButty said:

My guess a lot of strings had to be pulled here make sure you kiss the ground when you land in Aussie

I offer that no strings were pulled. Rather, the Australian government  opened a can of whoopass and were not taking no for an answer. For sure, the gent should  say thank you to Australia, but honestly every Australian who spoke out and especially the government should be proud of themselves for standing up and doing the right thing.

 

Meanwhile, Thailand made a fool of itself.

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7 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

The Thai authorities had no choice in this matter they were just doing as ordered.

 

Hence the usual obfuscation, denials, blame shifting and lack of clarity from the outset.

 

They cannot tell the truth about why he was detained or why he was not released after international condemnation.

 

If there were no international scrutiny of this matter you can be absolutely 100% sure he would be in Bahrain right now as I type.

 

They needed Bahrain to withdraw the extradition request, now the question is did Bahrain actually withdraw it or is that another face-saving lie?

 

I suspect intervention from an unmentionable source to get the request withdrawn allowing Thailand to save face.

 

 

Agreed completely - especially "If there were no international scrutiny of this matter you can be absolutely 100% sure he would be in Bahrain right now", and even more so your last 2 words, which seem to be happening more often these days. 

When will "these people" learn to put their brains into gear before making decisions that are going to jump back and bite them in the butt?

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10 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

Lots of talking went on I wonder who give the most to let him leave Thailand 

Australia would have gave them nothing.

 

A better way of putting it is "how much face-splashed all over the Western media-can you afford to lose?

 

Whilst the present governmental incumbents have probably never seen a map of the world (in spherical or rectangular form)I am very sure others have.

 

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7 hours ago, Boatfreak said:

Home??? Do you mean the country where they do not want any refugees? The country that informed Thailand in the first place? 

Australia welcomed 180,000 migrants last year many of which were legal refugee non economic migrants.

Australia did not inform Thailand as you suggest. No need to post your racist views on this forum.

 

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5 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Yet a couple of days ago, didn't we have someone from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying that once the legal process started here there was no way it could be cancelled?

 

Sounds like the left hand not knowing that the right hand even exists.

No! It's sounds like they're full of piss and wind.

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1 hour ago, sambum said:

Agreed completely - especially "If there were no international scrutiny of this matter you can be absolutely 100% sure he would be in Bahrain right now", and even more so your last 2 words, which seem to be happening more often these days. 

When will "these people" learn to put their brains into gear before making decisions that are going to jump back and bite them in the butt?

Putting their brains forward into gear is difficult for most Thai's, have you ever been privy to how they teach or do not fail their students, failure is not in their vocabulary, they will get children all the way to University to do something special for the teacher if they are having trouble in a particular subject, whether it's cleaning a room or doing something else to pass the subject, not suggesting something sexual for those ready to jump in, and there you have a zero failure rate, and guess who is running the country, all those students that should have failed as we do back in the west.

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5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

So what should they do when there is an Interpol red notice on someone entering the country?

The guy is an idiot to travel outside the country where he is a refugee.

Another uneducation know all.

 

I will explain it one more time for the slow learners, i.e. if they can actually comprehend what I am writing.

 

The application was made by the Bahrain government to Interpol to have a red notice put up, it was, he was given "refugee status" in Australia, he has permanent residency in Australia, meaning he has the right to live there as a free man and travel internationally without fear under international law which recognises his status as a "refugee".

 

Interpol removed the notice once it was informed of the error, this in itself shows that Interpol understands international law, however Thailand refused to accept his status as a "refugee" because it thought it was above international law, later finding out that holding onto this soccer ball was going to create more than it was worth, released him, i.e. once they get hold of something, they don't won't to let go as they will "lose face" the biggest problem with their culture today which has to change, we call it pride in the west.

 

He was within his rights to travel outside of Australia, no one in their right mind expected that a red notice would be in the system, which should have been taken down once he was given "refugee status".

 

I can guarantee you there will be a lot of people getting kicked up the rear, from Australia, to Interpol, to Thailand to Bahrain and one would hope that this creates a system that will never repeat what has just happened, and we can only hope that Thailand starts to understand that there are people in this world that obtain "refugee status" because they are being victimised in their own countries and flee to another in fear of punishment or death, something which is going to take them a long time to get their heads around because this is not a free country and has a military resign that will act as other countries like Bahrain do to quash the basic human rights of their citizens, just have a look what happened back in 2014 with the many deaths of the red shirts, but I won't go there. 

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18 hours ago, wendyfromoz said:

on Australian news a few minutes ago, Bahrain has served papers on the Australian Ambassador in Saudi Arabia for the arrest of Hakeem Al Araibi and extridiction to Bahrain.

Yep heard that also

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14 hours ago, tifino said:

Reckon there'll be pretty good gate takings at the next Soccer match!

 

 

His only safe future overseas holiday destinations;

 - is pretty much now Israel, or Ecuador...

He only plays in a local suburban club, amature social games.  He isn't an international soccer player as the media tried to make out.

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11 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

Australia welcomed 180,000 migrants last year many of which were legal refugee non economic migrants.

Australia did not inform Thailand as you suggest. No need to post your racist views on this forum.

 

There was nothing racist in his comments. Please stop overusing that word when it does not apply...it gets boring.

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10 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Putting their brains forward into gear is difficult for most Thai's, have you ever been privy to how they teach or do not fail their students, failure is not in their vocabulary, they will get children all the way to University to do something special for the teacher if they are having trouble in a particular subject, whether it's cleaning a room or doing something else to pass the subject, not suggesting something sexual for those ready to jump in, and there you have a zero failure rate, and guess who is running the country, all those students that should have failed as we do back in the west.

I know a kid who is 10 years old in P1. they don't all pass. 

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