webfact Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Coup ‘fake news’, military united: Prayut By THE NATION PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday dismissed rumours of a junta order removing the military’s commanders-in-chief as “fake news”, insisting the military remained united. “If it were true I would have informed [the public]. There is a procedure to remove any [military] officer. It’s not like I can use Article 44 [to order a removal],” General Prayut said in response to the rumour. The rumour coincided with similar rumours of a possible counter coup d’etat amid uncertainty over the political situation. Defence Ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantravanich said Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwan had insisted that there would be no counter-coup as some were speculating. The military has 100 per cent unity and is a major institution for taking care of national security, he added. Meanwhile, the assistant secretary-general of the Secretariat of the Cabinet, Savitri Chamnarnkit, yesterday filed charges with the Technology Crime Suppression Division (TCSD) against individuals alleged to have circulated a falsified junta order. Pol Colonel Siriwat Deepor, the TCSD spokesman, accepted the case and said he would set up a team to investigate and find the culprits, who may have violated Article 14(2) of the Computer Crime Act. The Article states that those involved in importing false computer data to a computer system that is likely to damage the country’s security or cause panic among the public shall be subject to imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine of not more than Bt100,000 or both. The false order, which indicated that active post commanders of the Army, Navy and Air Force were to be removed, had spread on social network platforms during the weekend. It also claimed the transfers were royally approved and promulgated in the Royal Gazette. In a related development, the National Council for Peace and Order set up a war room to closely monitor current movements that could instigate chaos in the country, a junta source said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30363951 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-02-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 "...In a related development, the National Council for Peace and Order set up a war room to closely monitor current movements that could instigate chaos in the country, a junta source said..." I am told that there have been reports of Thai citizens putting up posters of a political nature, making speeches of a political nature, postings made on Facebook and other social media platforms of a political nature and congregating in groups of more than five people in meeting(s) described as being "political in nature". These trouble-makers will be investigated, monitored closely and their activities curtailed if/as necessary. (sadly, I need to point out that I am joking...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: Defence Ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantravanich said Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwan had insisted that there would be no counter-coup as some were speculating. And if the defence minister - that shining beacon of honesty and integrity - insists so, it must be true. (cough, cough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: “If it were true I would have informed [the public]. There is a procedure to remove any [military] officer. It’s not like I can use Article 44 [to order a removal],” General Prayut said in response to the rumour. However, if he did that to remove himself, would the police rule it as suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: PRIME MINISTER Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday dismissed rumours of a junta order removing the military’s commanders-in-chief as “fake news”, insisting the military remained united. Well that would seem to confirm that all is not well at the top, given the man is a serial liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, webfact said: “If it were true I would have informed [the public]. there is 'true' and there is his version of 'true'; a kind of quasi-true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, YetAnother said: there is 'true' and there is his version of 'true'; a kind of quasi-true 'Extra-factual truths', as I call them. 'Lies' to everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 How can there be another coup till we get a new democratic government to remove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Bull Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, mikebell said: How can there be another coup till we get a new democratic government to remove? Maybe the military has had enough of Prayut also for someone that has claimed to have resigned his commission he spends a lot of time in uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Old Bull said: Maybe the military has had enough of Prayut also for someone that has claimed to have resigned his commission he spends a lot of time in uniform When did you last see Prayut in military uniform? The uniform he is seen wearing these days is the Thai civil service uniform, nothing to do with the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proboscis Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mikebell said: How can there be another coup till we get a new democratic government to remove? If you had read a little Thai history, there have been instances of governments installed by military coup having been uninstalled by military coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Maybe no coup but certainly the military is not united at the top and at the bottom. Prayut and his NCPO are hanging on by a thread and making suspicious glances at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Well it has been nearly 5 years since the last one so another one is long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Well that settles it. I need to get out today and pick up a few bottles of good booze, plus rotgut SangSom just in case. Snowstorms could happen this time of year too. Best to be prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owling Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 He looks like a worried man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I wonder who did it and where they are now hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: I wonder who did it and where they are now hiding? In the barracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Shouldn't that stamp in big red letters be on the left............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...In a related development, the National Council for Peace and Order set up a war room to closely monitor current movements that could instigate chaos in the country, a junta source said..." I am told that there have been reports of Thai citizens putting up posters of a political nature, making speeches of a political nature, postings made on Facebook and other social media platforms of a political nature and congregating in groups of more than five people in meeting(s) described as being "political in nature". These trouble-makers will be investigated, monitored closely and their activities curtailed if/as necessary. (sadly, I need to point out that I am joking...) If this fake news has any grounds for concern to national security then the current government and leader should and I presume will inevitably stay in control. Lets hope so .... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This country is so funny. It's like watching millions of babies. When you don't follow laws or rules or even an ethical framework for right and wrong, the only thing that matters is cunning and force. And, force is the only system their feudal society understands. They will never figure out how to build a society of laws and progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowerboy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I believed the first reports that this was fake news.....after having read this from Prayut I am now convinced that it probably was NOT fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, steven100 said: If this fake news has any grounds for concern to national security then the current government and leader should and I presume will inevitably stay in control. Lets hope so .... ???? If the national security is due to the current government, shouldn't they stay out rather stay and allow the insecurity to fester. You are tripping all over with your poor assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Eric Loh said: If the national security is due to the current government, shouldn't they stay out rather stay and allow the insecurity to fester. You are tripping all over with your poor assessment. Fake or not .... as Khun Prayuth reiterated ... there is no issue with the military and the Junta is united. I see where your coming from and right, but I believe this is just another speed bump on the political highway... nothing to threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 "Truth isn't truth" Rudy G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowerboy Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It could just be on hold... Real question: with Cobra Gold happening would that of made a coup next to impossible for a variety of reasons (intl politics, troop availability etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Translated: There might be a coup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, owling said: He looks like a worried man. Not as worried at someone in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Fex Bluse said: This country is so funny. It's like watching millions of babies. When you don't follow laws or rules or even an ethical framework for right and wrong, the only thing that matters is cunning and force. And, force is the only system their feudal society understands. They will never figure out how to build a society of laws and progress. One of the best summations (above) of official Thai 'culture' I have ever read here. Brilliantly and accurately stated, Fex Bluse. Morality and ethics are nothing here (except in empty verbiage). 'Might is right' prevails amongst the fake 'elites' again and again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, steven100 said: Fake or not .... as Khun Prayuth reiterated ... there is no issue with the military and the Junta is united. I see where your coming from and right, but I believe this is just another speed bump on the political highway... nothing to threatening. Ah, but are these "speed bumps on the political highway" marked on the "roadmap"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, webfact said: The military has 100 per cent unity Damn! Lets hope not hey. 9 hours ago, webfact said: The rumour coincided with similar rumours of a possible counter coup d’etat amid uncertainty over the political situation. Damn. Lets hope so hey. No smoke without fire as they say........... 9 hours ago, webfact said: In a related development, the National Council for Peace and Order set up a war room to closely monitor current movements that could instigate chaos in the country, a junta source said. Paranoia. Scared of their own shadows. Fear mongering numpties. "He's behind YOU".......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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