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phuketrichard

Regarding new Extensions $$$ regulations

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4 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

I believe that the four embassy's that stopped the letters did the right thing. Obviously, you would rather they were dishonest as long as it benefits you.

If you were to dismount from your high horse occasionally, it may be that some people just want their life to be made easier, not more complicated.

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1 minute ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

You misunderstand me.

Thai immigration wanted the letters as proof that the embassy had verified the income claimed.

The embassy's told them that that wasn't possible as they cannot perform a verification of the claimed income. Therefore, they did the honest thing and stopped the letters.

The British Embassy did verify income in the same way as all the other embassies that continue to provide the letters.

 

You may be correct in your assumption regarding the US and Australian embassies who didn't verify income. Incorrect regarding the British Embassy.

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3 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

I dont think you will find anything that shows any of the embassies were ever dishonest, most just witnessed a signature on a personal statement or verified they had been shown documents.

 

Yes, true. But, when they were told that this letter was "proof" that the income claimed was true, then, it would have been dishonest to continue them. Everything was fine when the policy was don't ask, don't tell, but immigration upset that apple-cart.

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5 minutes ago, vogie said:

If you were to dismount from your high horse occasionally, it may be that some people just want their life to be made easier, not more complicated.

Horses nothing to do with it. Facts are all.

Yes, I'm sure people would love to have their lives made easier..........especially those people that can't meet the new requirements.

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17 hours ago, phuketrichard said:

of course

BUT now how will they check and what about the issues i raised?

There is nothing in the hand out reprinted above that deals with my questions.


Many people believe that they will NOT check the 800,000 is in the bank 3 months after the extension.

NOR will they check you keep 400,000 in the bank the renaming 6 months

UNTIL your next extension is due

 

What the vol is staying is EVERYONE now needs visit immigration 4x /year to have your bank book checked.

 

Anyone else want put in their $.05 worth?

 

 

I would agree with you about checking on next extension. A relatively simple  visual check on  any submitted account details comparing  dates and  deposit amounts.

As  is with the initial proof of  deposit the onus will be on the applicant.

It also is the answer  to the issue of  being out of Thailand and returning on a re-entry permit.

I did  my 90 day report about 1 month ago. At that time I was asked if I intended  to  renew  my extension due  18th Feb. The  answer being yes  I was  given a new  90 day report slip  for that  date.

I renewed  my extension  3  days ago with another 90 day report slip. Immediately  after  asked  for and got a re entry permit. The same IO  did all of it. 

Not one word was said about the latest requirements. Not even if an exit and re entry  would knowingly alter the 90 day report.

I seriously  doubt Imm. want people to be charging in and out just to wave paper proof evry 3 months.

Especially when it  would require computer entries in acknowledgement.

So I  believe it will come down to  the next application for an extension. At that time they  can nobble anyone same as if not being able to show evidence  of adequate monthly income or combination as they do now.

Assuming that the new information will be well known it will be up to the applicant to comply.

 

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1 minute ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

Yes, true. But, when they were told that this letter was "proof" that the income claimed was true, then, it would have been dishonest to continue them. Everything was fine when the policy was don't ask, don't tell, but immigration upset that apple-cart.

How do you know what was said at the meeting in May, or who the target audience was? What we do know is, that every other embassy who verified income in the same way as the British Embassy, continues to issue the letters.

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

The British Embassy did verify income in the same way as all the other embassies that continue to provide the letters.

 

You may be correct in your assumption regarding the US and Australian embassies who didn't verify income. Incorrect regarding the British Embassy.

No, they could NOT verify. Verification needs the embassy to contact all the banks and institutions that issued those documents.

As has been mentioned many times before, with today's technology, fake documents are not hard to make.

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19 hours ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

OK, I can see why they want to extend the period you have 800k in the bank, but, why can we only spend 400k? Why do we have to always have a minimum of 400k in the account.

Immigration keep banging on about wanting to see money spent, but, now they are stopping us doing that.

That's what you get when uneducated people that have good connections are put into positions of authority. Nothing is thought through.....

It's All  crap Marriage extension should be THB 800K that's for 2 or more people ,

                  Retirement extension should be THB 400K that's for 1 person. To me that make sense but this is Thailand  we got to do what we gotta do.  😞

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Just now, Spidey said:

How do you know what was said at the meeting in May, or who the target audience was? What we do know is, that every other embassy who verified income in the same way as the British Embassy, continues to issue the letters.

It was in one of the early threads where an embassy official said so.

If other embassy's are still issuing the letters, but, are not verifying the info, then what would you call that?

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2 minutes ago, digger70 said:

It's All  crap Marriage extension should be THB 800K that's for 2 or more people ,

                  Retirement extension should be THB 400K that's for 1 person. To me that make sense but this is Thailand  we got to do what we gotta do.  😞

Yes, and if my Auntie had balls, she'd be my Uncle.

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Just now, Joe Mcseismic said:

No, they could NOT verify. Verification needs the embassy to contact all the banks and institutions that issued those documents.

As has been mentioned many times before, with today's technology, fake documents are not hard to make.

The documents that I provided to the British Embassy would be extremely difficult to fake. I have never heard of any Brit faking documents to provide to the British Embassy. An urban myth. Much easier, as a couple of my friends have always done, to pay an agent to "create" a bank account for you with 800k baht in it.

 

Rather than suppressing dishonesty amongst British expats, the discontinuation of the letters has increased the customer base for dishonest agents.

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7 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

It was in one of the early threads where an embassy official said so.

If other embassy's are still issuing the letters, but, are not verifying the info, then what would you call that?

It was the British Embassy official and she gave no details as to what was said in the meeting or to whom.

 

The British Embassy used the meeting as an excuse to discontinue the letters for their own selfish motives. Something that the dumb embassy official alluded to when she stupidly admitted that the decision was not made by the British Embassy in Bangkok but as a result of a Foreign office audit.

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3 hours ago, madmitch said:

By far the most logical method but I don't think it matters what we've read or heard; nothing regarding the procedure has been announced yet. Guess we'll have to wait until after March 1st when people start renewing.

I concur- instead of speculating lets see what happens and wait for Merjin to give an update with clarification.

 

20 odd threads of 'what ifs' and 'buts' all over the forums already! It will settle down once all the riff-raf (30-50% of them depending on online polls of facebook!) have fled in disgust. Lets not forget according to mos of them who haven't been here Phuket is expensive and sh1t anyway 😎

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

The documents that I provided to the British Embassy would be extremely difficult to fake. I have never heard of any Brit faking documents to provide to the British Embassy. An urban myth. Much easier, as a couple of my friends have always done, to pay an agent to "create" a bank account for you with 800k baht in it.

 

Rather than suppressing dishonesty amongst British expats, the discontinuation of the letters has increased the customer base for dishonest agents.

You're missing the point. The embassy is not in the business of true verification of documents for other, foreign entities. It's immigration's job to verify what they want verified. So that there was absolutely no confusion about what these letters represented, the embassy discontinued them.

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

It was the British Embassy official and she gave no details as to what was said in the meeting or to whom.

 

The British Embassy used the meeting as an excuse to discontinue the letters for their own selfish motives.

That's just your opinion and you know what they say about opinions......

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