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BANGKOK 24 March 2019 20:17
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Potential Stomach Ulcer

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3 minutes ago, pr9spk said:

Flagyl is metronidazole, which is a basic antibiotic. It is not "hardcore stuff" in any sense of the word. I've been giving flagyl to patients pretty much daily for over 15 years. Only issue with this drug is that you CANNOT drink alcohol whilst using it, and for a day or two after.

 

People who have very stressful jobs and don't eat properly because of workplace pressure, and then go home to unwind with a glass of wine or three are much more likely to develop ulcer-like symptoms. Doing that in Thailand, where you are more likely to eat a lot of very spicy foods only compounds the issue.

 

Flagyl is safe, you can take it when you need, not only in dire situations, trust me.

Flagyl has some rare but serious side effects such as unsteadiness, seizures, mental/mood changes (such as confusion), trouble speaking, numbness/tingling of arms/legs, eye pain, sudden vision changes, severe headache, stiff/painful neck etc. And that is in addition to the more common side effects of stomach upset, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, diarrhea, constipation, a metallic taste in the mouth and dark colored urine.

 

Self-medication is not safe especially if recommended on a site such as this.

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7 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

If you taken Omeprazol for a couple of weeks, and the symptoms are still there, I'd do I gastroscopy.

Yes.

 

Gastroscopy and they will always check for h. pylori when they do it.

 

if you can afford it suggest Dr., Varocha Mahachai at BPH.

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Yes.
 
Gastroscopy and they will always check for h. pylori when they do it.
 
if you can afford it suggest Dr., Varocha Mahachai at BPH.
Would it be better to do a H. pylori infection Stool antigen test first? may avoid the need for a gastroscopy? how much is a gastroscopy?
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3 minutes ago, pr9spk said:

Laughable.

 

Every drug, including paracetamol will have a list of side effects like this, if not longer. If beer was a drug, it would have pages of "possible" symptoms because thats how the pharmaceutical industry works.

 

95% of people who take flagyl will get no side effects. Not sure where you cut and pasted that from, but I have first hand knowledge of dealing with thousands (if not tens of thousands) of patients who have taken metronidazole with no adverse effects.

 

If you have any experience of the medical industry, you would understand that they have an obligation to provide details of every possible side effect.

 

Flagyl, or Metrondiazole, is a very safe and effective drug in someone who has no hepatic insufficiency and abstains from alcohol for the course of treatment. Stop peddling garbage please.

Agree, I took it with Clarithromycin and a PPI for two or three weeks and only experienced a slight metallic taste in my mouth...........nothing life threatening or that I couldn't handle.

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Garbage eh? More like a demonstration of dangerous ignorance from you. I repeat self-medication based on "advice" from some anonymous forum post should come with a very big red warning notice. 

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11 minutes ago, Christophers200 said:

Garbage eh? More like a demonstration of dangerous ignorance from you. I repeat self-medication based on "advice" from some anonymous forum post should come with a very big red warning notice. 

I have self-medicated all my life, but I spent many years at University, and then in hospitals studying drugs, doses, pharmacokinetics and giving lectures on antibiotic resistance. And I would never suggest that someone follows advice on a forum because of uneducated people like you. Consult a professional.

 

Giving medical or medication advice on a forum when you don't know what you are talking about is extremely stupid.

 

And suggesting that flagyl is "hardcore" is not only false, but could prevent forum members from taking it when they need it, so is harmful advice.

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I have self-medicated all my life, but I spent many years at University, and then in hospitals studying drugs, doses, pharmacokinetics and giving lectures on antibiotic resistance. And I would never suggest that someone follows advice on a forum because of uneducated people like you. Consult a professional.
 
Giving medical or medication advice on a forum when you don't know what you are talking about is extremely stupid.
 
And suggesting that flagyl is "hardcore" is not only false, but could prevent forum members from taking it when they need it, so is harmful advice.
Good to have knowledgeable medical people on board, don't go away

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9 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I thought it was the water.

 

What water do you drink?   Tap or bottled?

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What water do you drink?   Tap or bottled?
"Filtered" from the 1 baht machines. i changed machines for a week and it made no difference

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1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:
1 hour ago, Sheryl said:
Yes.
 
Gastroscopy and they will always check for h. pylori when they do it.
 
if you can afford it suggest Dr., Varocha Mahachai at BPH.

Would it be better to do a H. pylori infection Stool antigen test first? may avoid the need for a gastroscopy? how much is a gastroscopy?

You can and it will certainly save money vs a gastroscopy which deopending where it is done will be anywhere from 13 - 30K, the lower end of that being at RSU Helaht in Bangkok so you'd have to travel and spend at least one, maybe two nights in bangkok  so add travel + hotel to that to the cost.

 

What a gastroscopy can do that just a test for h. pylori can't, is rule out a mass in the stomach. (It can also determine if you have an actual ulcer or gastritis but if you are h. pylori + it really doesn't matter if it is gastritis alone or gastritis with ulcer, treatment pretty much the same).

 

Suggest you see Dr. Varocha and discuss with her. In my experience she is pretty flexible and willing to involve the patient in deciding what tests to do.

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1 minute ago, Sheryl said:

You can and it will certainly save money vs a gastroscopy which deopending where it is done will be anywhere from 13 - 30K, the lower end of that being at RSU Helaht in Bangkok so you'd have to travel and spend at least one, maybe two nights in bangkok  so add travel + hotel to that to the cost.

In the UK, I had a gastroscopy immediately followed by a colonoscopy. I requested, no anaesthesia, no analgesics so that I could leave immediately after the procedure. If I hadn't requested that I would have had to wait 2 hours for discharge. No need for overnight stay. Can't comment on the cost because the procedure is free in the UK. 

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

In the UK, I had a gastroscopy immediately followed by a colonoscopy. I requested, no anaesthesia, no analgesics so that I could leave immediately after the procedure. If I hadn't requested that I would have had to wait 2 hours for discharge. No need for overnight stay. Can't comment on the cost because the procedure is free in the UK. 

That takes more stoicism than most of us have any wish to try to summon up.

 

Especially for the colonoscopy!

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Just now, Sheryl said:

That takes more stoicism than most of us have any wish to try to summon up.

 

Especially for the colonoscopy!

Yep, with hindsight, I should have taken their advice re: the colonoscopy. Had my wife and daughter with me (both nurses) and a long journey home. Didn't want to keep them hanging around for a couple of hours.

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3 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

That takes more stoicism than most of us have any wish to try to summon up.

 

Especially for the colonoscopy!

Yeah screw that, knock me out thanks!

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