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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

No idea what you are on about. 

 

Pelosi said the wall was immoral and that was the reason she wouldn't give more than a single dollar or so she said. So she is now agreeing to something she previously said is immoral. 

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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Pelosi said the wall was immoral and that was the reason she wouldn't give more than a single dollar or so she said. So she is now agreeing to something she previously said is immoral. 

I have no idea what that has to do with my post, which pointed out Pelosi had broken trump, to the point he is too scared to go up against her to build his wall. 

 

He bottled it and knows he has been whipped. 

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9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I have no idea what that has to do with my post, which pointed out Pelosi had broken trump, to the point he is too scared to go up against her to build his wall. 

 

He bottled it and knows he has been whipped. 

 

You said Pelosi had won. I am basically saying she sold her soul to do it. If she had any moral fiber would stick to her guns. Not more than one single dollar for the wall should be her position. Now we have come from the premise it is immoral to simply how to fund it. That is a big change, the money can be found now that the "immoral" hurdle has been tossed out.

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2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You said Pelosi had won. I am basically saying she sold her soul to do it. If she had any moral fiber would stick to her guns. Not more than one single dollar for the wall should be her position.

Rubbish. 

 

The democrat position has been to fund border security, and prevent trump building an ineffective wall that he has no mandate for. 

 

Nonetheless, that has nothing to do with my post.

 

I didn’t say she won, I said she broke trump. 

 

Because she has. 

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5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Rubbish. 

 

The democrat position has been to fund border security, and prevent trump building an ineffective wall that he has no mandate for. 

 

Nonetheless, that has nothing to do with my post.

 

I didn’t say she won, I said she broke trump. 

 

Because she has. 

 

Did she or did she not vow to not give more than one dollar to the wall because she considered it immoral? You can talk in circles but facts are facts.

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15 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Did she or did she not vow to not give more than one dollar to the wall because she considered it immoral? You can talk in circles but facts are facts.

Don’t know, don’t care. Don’t particularly like her but I did enjoy the way she broke trump. 

 

That is all I posted on. 

 

I understand the democrat position that there has to be border security, don’t particularly care about any one individuals personal perspective or statements. 

 

As a party they have a policy, rather than rational more trump’s imbecilic belief in a wall/fence/slats (whatever he is calling it today). 

 

trump promised a wall the tax payer would not have to fund. 

 

That was a lie. 

 

That is why I have a problem with his behaviour, which caused the shutdown. 

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3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Don’t know, don’t care. Don’t particularly like her but I did enjoy the way she broke trump. 

 

That is all I posted on. 

 

I support the democrat position on border security, don’t particularly care about any one individuals personal perspective or statements. 

 

As a party they have a policy I regard as more rational than trump’s imbecilic belief in a wall/fence/slats (whatever he is calling it today). 

 

More so I respect the fact they campaigned on a policy they are now promoting.

 

Unlike trump who promised a wall the tax payer would not have to fund. 

 

That was a lie. 

 

You care when Trump lies but are unable to concede to the simple fact that Pelosi lied. I really don't care but it is interesting to see that you can't just acknowledge that and move on. Anyway the wall has a green light to go forward is the larger point. That Pelosi isn't an honest person isn't the real news.

 

Now however funding is achieved the wall can be built and that wasn't the case before. So it could be said Pelosi won a battle here but her concession will ultimately lead to the wall being built and she will lose the war. 

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16 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You care when Trump lies but are unable to concede to the simple fact that Pelosi lied. I really don't care but it is interesting to see that you can't just acknowledge that and move on. Anyway the wall has a green light to go forward is the larger point. That Pelosi isn't an honest person isn't the real news.

 

Now however funding is achieved the wall can be built and that wasn't the case before. So it could be said Pelosi won a battle here but her concession will ultimately lead to the wall being built and she will lose the war. 

She’s already whipped trump, he’s house trained and while his blustering over the wall goes on, he’s lost and for that I credit Pelosi.

 

She broke him.  

 

Thats all i posted on, because that’s all I wanted to comment on. 

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27 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

She’s already whipped trump, he’s house trained and while his blustering over the wall goes on, he’s lost and for that I credit Pelosi.

 

She broke him.  

 

Thats all i posted on, because that’s all I wanted to comment on. 

 

In order to win she became just like what people accuse Trump of being. A liar that does things immoral for political gain. A little ironic I would think. However we can agree to disagree. 

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6 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

In order to win she became just like what people accuse Trump of being. A liar that does things immoral for political gain. A little ironic I would think. However we can agree to disagree. 

She showed him he could not force a policy he had no mandate for on the country. 

 

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1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Did she or did she not vow to not give more than one dollar to the wall because she considered it immoral? You can talk in circles but facts are facts.

@CryingdickCould you please provide the context and a source that has that "immoral" comment in it? I'm not certain but I think maybe she meant holding the government hostage with a shutdown for his wall was "immoral" rather, than the wall itself. I remember her standing beside Chuck Schumer when they were saying they aren't against the wall entirely.

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15 hours ago, webfact said:

He was weighing the use of an executive order, among other options, the sources told Reuters.

 

10 hours ago, stevenl said:

I don't think he'll sign this. This goes against what he promised and is still promising his base: a wall, no matter how.  If hje'd sign this that would be signing defeat. Why would he, just shut it down again.

He may really declare a national emergency. 

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15 hours ago, robblok said:

Seems the master of deal is failing in his biggest promise. 

Exactly. The dems offered him 1,6 billion dollars for his precious wall before the shutdown, and now he’s agreeing to 1,375 billion dollars. Way to win a negotiation, Donald! 

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42 minutes ago, Solinvictus said:

@CryingdickCould you please provide the context and a source that has that "immoral" comment in it? I'm not certain but I think maybe she meant holding the government hostage with a shutdown for his wall was "immoral" rather, than the wall itself. I remember her standing beside Chuck Schumer when they were saying they aren't against the wall entirely.

 

Cut to about 40 seconds in. She specifically says the wall itself is an immorality. She also vows not to give more than a dollar and no wall will ever be built. 

 

She will have to take the word moral out of her political vocabulary in the future. This is going to be used against the dems time and time again during the elections. 

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