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1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

So de facto when using Transferwise it means a foreign transfer.

Although there is no indication the money came from 'Transferwise' on the Thai passbook. It shows up as International or domestic.

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A question: February 22th I will go for my second extension this year, so six months, I looked My bank book it will be OK still over 400 000฿

But what would have happened if it had been under, like 350 000฿ for instance, in my case, it would have been possible.

Some expats not speaking English do not read TV. I know that everywhere no one is supposed not to ignore the law, but what would happen if someone was not aware while being in good standing for last year but under 400 000 ฿ for a few time! Expelled unceremoniously?

 

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19 hours ago, albertik said:

 

3. And a  form that required I fill in the sources of my monthly income and that it was deposited into a Thai. bank.

One blank space labeled "pension" and an additional blank space for what was labeled "social" Keep in mind that I had already stated and was reiterated by the IO that I was using the 800K deposit.

 

On this form, what information was asked for in the blank spaces?  Was it just amounts or did it ask for account details?

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4 hours ago, Chassa said:

Does BTN in my Bangkok Bank book mean Bank of Thailand transfer (overseas) or bank transfer (local)?

BTN refers to the bahtnet (google it, to long to explain it). In another thread started by Tanoshi it has been indicated that Immigration are aware that this will indicate the money has originated from outside Thailand but you will still need to get a statement from your bank to show this. I bank with Kasikorn and they show it as BNT so either seem to mean the same thing.  Hardest part is getting your local branch to understand what you want. 

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On 2/13/2019 at 10:54 PM, Pungdo said:

I approached OrbitRemit about creating a statement that would show international transfers over a 1 year period and they weren't that interested, however they already supply something that may get me over the line on a transaction by transaction basis that proves it was an international transfer, see the attachment.

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Although it is obvious to most, the statement does not explicitly say that it came from a foreign source. 

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16 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

A question: February 22th I will go for my second extension this year, so six months, I looked My bank book it will be OK still over 400 000฿

What type of extension are you applying for that only allows a 3 month stay?

Or are you incorrectly calling a a report of staying longer than 90 days in the country an extension?

There is no confirmation that immigration will be checking your bank balance when you do 90 day reports. Also it appears you have an extension you applied for long before the 1st of March so the new rules do not apply in your case.

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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

there is no indication the money came from 'Transferwise' on the Thai passbook. It shows up as International or domestic.

Correct, but it seems that a bank letter is primary.  for T. I.. 

So it is the bank which has to be convinced. 

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1 hour ago, Jim7777 said:

What I do is have them print out my Credit Advice once a month the day after my monthly wire transfers post and they show exactly where my deposit originated from my bank in the States, the amount of each deposit, my name, Thai address, and my SCB account number that my wire transfer went into which matches my pass book.  So if you have those printed out every month you make your wire transfers it’ll show your monthly wire transfers only and verify where each of them originated from and the account number your deposit went into as well as your name address and everything required.  So your wire transfers definitely can be verified by the bank and SCB at least my branch anyway is aware of Immigration’s requirements and will provide a formal letter if requested.  

Not if they're sent using TransferWise. They'll show as domestic transfers on your SCB statement. Mine do anyway, that's why I've opened a Bangkok Bank account. If you send using SWITCH then they show up as FTT, but I lose about 2000 baht a transfer compared to TransferWise.

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1 hour ago, AAArdvark said:

On this form, what information was asked for in the blank spaces?  Was it just amounts or did it ask for account details?

The only requirement was the amount; no account details were asked for.

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6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Well let us hope so because nobody here seems to have figured out what Immigration wants!

Neither have IOs hence the meeting necxt week.


What I menat is, that banks were supposedly told what Imm needs in terms of documenting ioverseas transfers.

 

The income method requirements (65K transferred each month from abroad) is about the only part if the new rules that is clear. How to prove it is another matter.

 

And I would not bank (no pun intended) on all Imm offices understanding the same HQ bank statements that senior IOs found clear.

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I renewed my extension yesterday and was sent to Bangkok Bank at the Immigration office for International Transfer proof.   The bank knew exactly what I wanted, and within five minutes gave me individual copies of all international funds transferred into my account here.

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Just a note to the poster "Pungdo" I note your comment "typical Thai fashion, they have no idea of what you are saying"

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't view things here through rose tinted glasses as I have been here long enough to know whats what. However why use a put down statement for this? you are in Thailand, if you want to be fully understood learn Thai, don't blame anyone here for not speaking all the worlds languages.

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4 minutes ago, JWRC said:

Just a note to the poster "Pungdo" I note your comment "typical Thai fashion, they have no idea of what you are saying"

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't view things here through rose tinted glasses as I have been here long enough to know whats what. However why use a put down statement for this? you are in Thailand, if you want to be fully understood learn Thai, don't blame anyone here for not speaking all the worlds languages.

If they still accepted the letters of those four embassies in the form in which they've been getting them for donkey's years, there'd be no problems understanding on either side. It's immigration IMHO who've opened this can of worms and we of course have to try and get around the ambiguity of the new rules. I don't fault anyone getting irate over the situation. By the way, Like it or not, English is the intl language of business.

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27 minutes ago, jesimps said:

By the way, Like it or not, English is the intl language of business.

In reality you would say English is the only language they need to know, not many Thais come in for Extensions and re-entry permits. Thai only needed to talk to agents, which should really be superfluous. 

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40 minutes ago, jesimps said:

If they still accepted the letters of those four embassies in the form in which they've been getting them for donkey's years, there'd be no problems understanding on either side. It's immigration IMHO who've opened this can of worms

But there appear to be 80 other foreign embassies in Bangkok who could still be providing income confirmations for their nationals:-

 

https://www.th4u.com/embassies.htm

 

So there can IMHO be absolutely no doubt that the responsibility for the current situation lies entirely with the 4 embassies who have seen fit to withdraw their income confirmation services. 

 

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