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Saying it like it is or dashing a patient's hopes? Cancer patient told to prepare for death

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1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Word of advice, never believe a single word out of a Thai's mouth, doctor or not. Verify with farangs and that at least twice too. No matter what the issue is.

 

The 'Don't Thai to me' didn't just appear out of thin air.

I take it you are married to a Thai and have Thai children.  I trust my Thai wife.  On the other hand my father and grandfather were German and lied to me every other word when I was a child. 

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Never listen to these clowns here, especially Bangkok Pattaya Hospital I have two friends who were diagnosed with cancer and advised to return to the U.K. to see out there remaining days. On returning home to a 1st world country neither had any form of cancer and returned to The Land of Scams, happy to say both still alive and kicking to this day many years later. 

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6 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I take it you are married to a Thai and have Thai children.  I trust my Thai wife.  On the other hand my father and grandfather were German and lied to me every other word when I was a child. 

It was the late German FIL that managed to squeeze out the Thainess from my family, Pioneering work, really, took him two decades. Good job too.

 

Of course living here it's a constant battle to keep it out.

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My friend with Leukaemia finished his second bout of chemo and they said "See you in 2 weeks"   He died 5 days later (in his sleep) without knowing. Never even had time to sort out things or say goodbye to his family. Doctors were not honest with him obviously

 

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5 hours ago, balo said:

Why is liver cancer so common in Thailand , anyone knows ? 

 

 

perhaps 2

 

# liver parasite common in bu bala sauce known to cause liver cancer

 

# alcohol

 

possible the 2 can potentiate each other

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2 hours ago, whitfield said:

6 years ago I went to Bangkok Hospital for a full check-up.  Just as I was leaving the hospital the doctor came rushing up and asked me to go back to her surgery.  She showed me the x ray and said she didn't like the look of a shadow on the lungs.  Could I see the chest specialist.  I went down to see him and he said:  Ah. Mr Vine, I'm afraid you have TB or lung cancer.  We need to do an MRI to determine which it is.

 

I spent 4 hours regretting every spliff I'd ever smoked and then when the results came through there was nothing on the image.  In my view his behaviour was nothing if not totally unprofessional.  I strongly suspect they just wanted another 15,000 Baht for the scan.

 

 

 

an unexplained shadow on cxr given smoking history is certainly worth investigating.

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1 hour ago, Caine said:

Never listen to these clowns here, especially Bangkok Pattaya Hospital I have two friends who were diagnosed with cancer and advised to return to the U.K. to see out there remaining days. On returning home to a 1st world country neither had any form of cancer and returned to The Land of Scams, happy to say both still alive and kicking to this day many years later. 

Unfortunately I know of a story like that after a few million baht spent here went back to England and they said to him you dont have cancer, I also know of a Thai lady in BKK where they said she had cancer and she didn't, shower of Bastard@

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A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer at a Thai hospital and given 6 months to live. He went back to England where doctors informed him the diagnosis was correct, but that he could also be cured! He lived and eventually returned to Thailand.

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Healthcare in Thailand is expensive, so in a sense it is nice from the doctor that she prevents the family from spending more on the hospital, if classic treatment can't help anymore.

If i would get news like this, it would be a good point in time to try an alternative cancer treatment, like marihuana. There is much evidence around claiming that concentrated marihuana paste can cure even stage 4 cancers.
Governments around the world are in the process of legalising marihuana for medicinal use because they can't cover up the health benefits anymore.

 

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2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Wow, I hope you don't have any Thai relatives, especially kids.

I know a guy like you who comes out with this racist ***** , despite being married to a Thai. His kids have grown up thinking that half of them is imperfect.

 

Remarkable that I should read this today.

 

Earlier I was wondering what happens to the minds of children, who grow up watching one parent burning sticks and leaving fizzy drinks in front of a dolls house, while the other thinks it's all complete b*******.

 

I cannot imagine relationships, containing that particular conflict, being formed in the contemporary societies from which most expats originate.

 

But it must be close to the norm for "mixed" families whose fathers post here (given the virulent hatred towards religious/"spiritual" belief so frequently displayed).

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, robblok said:

I disagree with your father, a larger portion does die and it would be useful for them to know to have their affairs in order. I can see his side of it but the small group that does survive against all odds does not weigh up to the much larger group kept in the dark unable to make their final arrangements and spend their final time in a meaningful way. 

Totally agree it is the Doctor’s responsibility to tell the truth false truth is no truth.

However to be fair it may have been in an era when different standards were applied.

I accept that one day I am going to die as does every living thing when it happens it’s my time.

As far as the Thai people are concerned I have attended many funerals and they seem to accept death better than Westerners perhaps all part of being a Buddhist.

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1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

Unfortunately I know of a story like that after a few million baht spent here went back to England and they said to him you dont have cancer, I also know of a Thai lady in BKK where they said she had cancer and she didn't, shower of Bastard@

Yes and have a look at how many misdiagnosed cases happen elsewhere and in particular how many preventable deaths occur in UK hospitals each year

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Liver cancer is fatal....I believe the doctor is giving false hope telling a patient has up to 2 years....

 

Usually liver cancer patients go very quickly....

 

the readers are not getting the full medical history....you don’t have healthy people waking up with liver CA...I guarentee you this patient has a history of CA....breast lung spleen kidney - somewhere was the primary CA site or sites and it finally in the liver....   

 

ballgame, end of story, warm up the fat lady’s vocals....the doctor could have done it with a metaphor...

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