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Airbus to scrap A380 superjumbo production as sales slump

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6 minutes ago, ozfarang said:

And Emirates dumbest corporate blunder for ordering so many. Going to be very hard to off-load the A380 in the years to come as there is no second hand market. SQ's first two aircraft have ended up as spare parts and scrap metal.

Big twins are the future of commercial aviation.

 

That was the bet Boeing made 25 years ago with the 777.

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Took a lot of flights on the A380 with Emirates and it was great.  I just crossed the Pacific on an A350-900ULR and it was fantastic.  For Airbus the A380 might go down in history as a blunder but the A350-900ULR will and has revolutionized long haul aviation.  Looking for my next trip across the Pacific on the A350-900ULR.

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17 minutes ago, ncc1701d said:

Passengers do like the a380. The problem is, as with the a340 before it, the airlines hate it. It didn’t come close to the efficiencies and lifting capability it was promised by airbus. I’m surprised it lasted this long.

 

 

I can't speak to that, but on an Emirates flight from Dubai to LAX they had to stop and put more fuel on at SFO.

 

How odd is that?

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13 minutes ago, ozfarang said:

And Emirates dumbest corporate blunder for ordering so many. Going to be very hard to off-load the A380 in the years to come as there is no second hand market. SQ's first two aircraft have ended up as spare parts and scrap metal.

Big twins are the future of commercial aviation.

 

They can run them for another 20-30 years, and unlike a lot of carriers, they don't have to be profitable...

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12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

They can run them for another 20-30 years, and unlike a lot of carriers, they don't have to be profitable...

Fair point, but when almost half of the fleet is the A380 and if fuel prices rise in the coming years it will be a huge financial burden.

The big twins are up to 40%(B777X) more fuel efficient.

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2 minutes ago, ozfarang said:

Fair point, but when almost half of the fleet is the A380 and if fuel prices rise in the coming years it will be a huge financial burden.

The big twins are up to 40%(B777X) more fuel efficient.

And when they often have cattle-class passengers in 80% of the business class seats it's tough to make money. 

 

Gotta love their lounges though...

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a really great aircraft but it's downfall like with Concord it is not made by Boeing, and the world is not a level playing field, easy to spot the American posters on this topic. 

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1 minute ago, Basil B said:

a really great aircraft but it's downfall like with Concord it is not made by Boeing, and the world is not a level playing field, easy to spot the American posters on this topic. 

Another Kool-Aid drinker making unsubstantiated claims. 

 

How is it Boeing's fault that most companies would rather trade with the US than Europe?

 

How is it Boeing's fault some companies need to remain profitable?

 

No post some links to moronic websites you claim substantiate your idiocy. 

 

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23 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, deciding to try to compete with the B747 even as Boeing was cycling the program down was foolish. 

 

 

You can say that with 20/20 hindsight 

 

At the time Airbus wanted to offer a complete range including a giant hub to hub mass transport.

 

Technological masterpiece. My favourite long haul business class aircraft.

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Just now, Grouse said:

iYou can say that with 20/20 hindsight 

 

At the time Airbus wanted to offer a complete range including a giant hub to hub mass transport.

 

Technological masterpiece. My favourite long haul business class aircraft.

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Of course it's hindsight, but there was no shortage of nay-sayers (Boeing included) before it went into production. 

 

I guess the size makes it something of a technological masterpiece, but it did go into service almost 40 years after the B747, and it took over two years from first flight to in-service.

 

To be clear, it's my favorite long haul business class aircraft as well. But would I pay significantly more to fly it over any other late model aircraft? No, I would not.

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4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Of course it's hindsight, but there was no shortage of nay-sayers (Boeing included) before it went into production. 

 

I guess the size makes it something of a technological masterpiece, but it did go into service almost 40 years after the B747, and it took over two years from first flight to in-service.

 

To be clear, it's my favorite long haul business class aircraft as well. But would I pay significantly more to fly it over any other late model aircraft? No, I would not.

I liked the DC10 very much

 

That was before they let peasants fly and price was everything!

 

I still dress properly for a flight 😉

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5 hours ago, natway09 said:

The A 350 looks like being the new competition to the 777 which has been (& still is)

very successful & great to travel in even in cattle class as long as they do not do what Emirates did & configure an extra seat  in the middle. For long haul it just makes it too cramped.

The sheer internal volume of the A 380 makes it a pleasure to fly in though

most airlines have made the B777 3/4/3

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7 minutes ago, steve187 said:

most airlines have made the B777 3/4/3

Not in business in 777-300ER

 

They should make economy seats hexagonal to maximise packing density

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1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Not in business in 777-300ER

 

They should make economy seats hexagonal to maximise packing density

they have more than likely thought of that, but at the moment its normal seats in a 3/4/3 configuration in a plane designed for 3/3/3

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7 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Took a lot of flights on the A380 with Emirates and it was great.  I just crossed the Pacific on an A350-900ULR and it was fantastic.  For Airbus the A380 might go down in history as a blunder but the A350-900ULR will and has revolutionized long haul aviation.  Looking for my next trip across the Pacific on the A350-900ULR.

Was that SQ? 

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