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5 minutes ago, LucysDad said:

 

 

It has certainly helped to deflect attention from the unhelpful/uncompromising EU.

 

 

British Parliament is certainly shooting itself in the foot, but am I the only one with a burning hatred for Junker/Tusk et al for doing nothing to help towards a smooth transition.

Hard to believe anybody can be endeared to any of the euro fanatics who are ideologically possessed. 

Drunker et al have shown their true colours and I would imagine not many Brits have liked what they have seen. Truly odious creatures

 

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8 minutes ago, LucysDad said:

 

 

It has certainly helped to deflect attention from the unhelpful/uncompromising EU.

 

 

British Parliament is certainly shooting itself in the foot, but am I the only one with a burning hatred for Junker/Tusk et al for doing nothing to help towards a smooth transition.

It was never their job to ‘help’ the UK out of the mess the UK got itself into.

 

But if you think the UK is getting a tough deal from the EU, wait until you see the shafting the US dishes out to a UK cap-in-hand desperate for a trade deal.

 

A degree of being ‘pleasuring’ that will only be a warmup for what the Chinese will serve up.

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43 minutes ago, Lungstib said:

The Brexit fiasco is at least informing us on the dire situation British politics is facing. The chosen winners of the last election have shown themselves to be totally divided over this issue and the opposition is making little or no inroads into its fight to overtake. Perhaps the British have finally decided that politicians are just not to be trusted to do what the electorate want but the time appears to be ripe for new parties to make an appearance. The old ones look to be intent on just pulling themselves apart.

i agree with you the whole 2 party system in the UK is failing, a complete revamp is required, the whole lot of the idiots in the house of commons should resign. results of the 2015 G.E. the system needs changing to reflect how the people vote , proportional representation is needed, - 

Conservatives 36.9% +0.8% 331 +24 50.9%
Labour 30.4% +1.4% 232 -26 35.7%
UKIP 12.6% +9.5% 1 +1 0.2%
Liberal Democrats 7.9% -15.2% 8 -49 1.2%
SNP 4.7% +3.1% 56 +50 8.6%
Green Party 3.8% +2.8% 1 0.2%
DUP 0.6% 8 1.2%
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18 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Don't worry, Mrs. May. The same armageddon warnings that we all had during the Y2K handover in 1999.

 

Get on with it. My bottle of Champagne is waiting for March 29.

French Champagne, will you be able to afford it ?

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Which raises the question Brexit with no deal or no Brexit?
 
 

If May and the EU try pushing their BRINO again, we will end up with the default No Deal.

There have been no major changes to it, so it should have been voted down again. Regardless of the red herring backstop there are many more important issues in the deal which must rejected.


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15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It was never their job to ‘help’ the UK out of the mess the UK got itself into.

 

But if you think the UK is getting a tough deal from the EU, wait until you see the shafting the US dishes out to a UK cap-in-hand desperate for a trade deal.

 

A degree of being ‘pleasuring’ that will only be a warmup for what the Chinese will serve up.

"It was never their job to ‘help’ the UK out of the mess the UK got itself into"

 

Have you ever thought for one minute by not helping the UK, the EU are not helping themselves, is it a case of the EU cutting their nose off to spite their face. Make no mistake the EU desperately  wants a deal, it is getting to the stage of who blinks first, if Mrs May had won last night there was a good chance of a 'no deal' being taken off the table. A no deal is the only bargaining tool we have left, take that off the table we may all just lay down and get a good kicking. 

If MPs want the best for our country, they are certainly going the wrong way about it.

 

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49 minutes ago, LucysDad said:

 

 

It has certainly helped to deflect attention from the unhelpful/uncompromising EU.

 

 

British Parliament is certainly shooting itself in the foot, but am I the only one with a burning hatred for Junker/Tusk et al for doing nothing to help towards a smooth transition.

Junker/Tusk and co are not the EU ,they are  snouts in trough the lot of them ,they do not seem to care what happens to the country's in the EU ,just what happens to their beloved club Brussels,where they can jet around the world pretending that they are the "elected" voice of Europe ,in fact they are just an unelected bunch of c-----ts.

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45 minutes ago, LucysDad said:

 

 

It has certainly helped to deflect attention from the unhelpful/uncompromising EU.

 

 

British Parliament is certainly shooting itself in the foot, but am I the only one with a burning hatred for Junker/Tusk et al for doing nothing to help towards a smooth transition.

I blame the brit. govt. (the vast majority of whom are remainers), as much as the eu govt. for the unnecessary fiasco over leaving the eu.

 

Whilst I'm disappointed that the eu made no attempt to reform the most disliked parts of it's organisation after the brexit referendum result (which may have resulted in voters changing their minds about a REFORMED eu) - I'm downright bad-tempered at the way May and the govt. are doing their very best to ensure BRINO, plus paying 39 bn for the privilege!

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2 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Whether a person is for or against Brexit doesn't really matter at this point; crashing out of the EU without some agreement in place is irresponsible madness. It is the equivalent of moving out of one's flat without another place to live.

Never before have I seen a country so utterly determined to shoot itself in the crotch.

Read the Hard Brexiteer nutters here and you get the picture. Grumpy old losers seeking payback for all the disappointments in their life and wanting to stick the lifetime's donkey tail on membership of the EU.

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1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

I blame the brit. govt. (the vast majority of whom are remainers), as much as the eu govt. for the unnecessary fiasco over leaving the eu.

Whilst I'm disappointed that the eu made no attempt to reform the most disliked parts of it's organisation after the brexit referendum result (which may have resulted in voters changing their minds about a REFORMED eu) - I'm downright bad-tempered at the way May and the govt. are doing their very best to ensure BRINO, plus paying 39 bn for the privilege!

Blame and Bad Temper: the Hard Brexiteer preferred choice of brand for eau de cologne.

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23 minutes ago, vogie said:

"It was never their job to ‘help’ the UK out of the mess the UK got itself into"

 

Have you ever thought for one minute by not helping the UK, the EU are not helping themselves, is it a case of the EU cutting their nose off to spite their face. Make no mistake the EU desperately  wants a deal, it is getting to the stage of who blinks first, if Mrs May had won last night there was a good chance of a 'no deal' being taken off the table. A no deal is the only bargaining tool we have left, take that off the table we may all just lay down and get a good kicking. 

If MPs want the best for our country, they are certainly going the wrong way about it.

....whereas in reality the British modus operandi has been to lay down and give themselves a good old kicking from beginning to end. Great to watch.

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48 minutes ago, Loiner said:

If May and the EU try pushing their BRINO again, we will end up with the default No Deal.
There have been no major changes to it, so it should have been voted down again. Regardless of the red herring backstop there are many more important issues in the deal which must rejected.

There is no "must (be) rejected", only a decision by Parliament. But we all know that if a deal is passed by Parliament, the Hard Brexiteers will turn against Parliament.

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1 hour ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Hard to believe anybody can be endeared to any of the euro fanatics who are ideologically possessed. 

Drunker et al have shown their true colours and I would imagine not many Brits have liked what they have seen. Truly odious creatures

But no mention of the odious Hard Brexiteers who of course cannot be accused of being ideologically possessed. :cheesy:

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13 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

....whereas in reality the British modus operandi has been to lay down and give themselves a good old kicking from beginning to end. Great to watch.

Whilst some snowflakes seem quite content to stand on the pavement and throw pointless remarks into the middle of the road.

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