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More Brexit embarrassment for May as parliament defeats her again

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2 hours ago, smedly said:

The people of the UK voted to leave - that is done and dusted, there possibly be scope for how we leave

If it were ‘done and dusted’, this whole topic would not exist.

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1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

Have you read anywhere exactly how much is genuinely 'owed' to the eu?

 

From the beginning, it has been nothing other than 'made up' numbers!

Numbers that the British Government agreed to.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which raises the question Brexit with no deal or no Brexit?

 

 

 

OK, not that interested in Brexit, but I've had a little think about it.  Possibly wrong but:

 

The EU will not budge.

 

For Parliament, "Deal" is out the door.

 

The public know that staying in means, in terms of "the pound in their pocket/food on the table/roof over their heads".........normal.

 

They have become inured to the idea that "No Deal" equals Doom.

 

So Parliament has the job, in the eyes of the public, of choosing between Catastrophe or Safe.

 

That shouldn't be too difficult.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, flossie35 said:

I hope you are! What do you expect Junker/Tusk to do? Re-start the NI troubles? And what hope is there for a "smooth transition"? And since any form of brexit is bad for us why do we still persist with silly nonsense?

Ever succeeded in persuading a grumpy old git to change his mind about anything? You might get better odds in persuading one to move from a dumbphone to a smartphone than getting him to review Brexit.

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So Parliament has the job, in the eyes of the public, of choosing between Catastrophe


Parliament has the job to deliver on the Withdrawal Act they have already passed into law.
Maybe they can improve our Exit with a deal but they must try harder than Theresa’s surrender to the EU.


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3 minutes ago, Loiner said:


No they haven’t. Only Theresa May has in her “my-deal-or-no-deal”. That agreement has been kicked out twice.


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Theresa May heads the Government.

 

It’s Parliament she’s having trouble with (thanks to members of her own party).

 

I trust we don’t need to re-run the ‘Government for beginners’ course again.

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1 minute ago, Loiner said:

 


Parliament has the job to deliver on the Withdrawal Act they have already passed into law.
Maybe they can improve our Exit with a deal but they must try harder than Theresa’s surrender to the EU.


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Or they can envoke parliamentary sovereignty and do something else.

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Can not even find the wording for the motion that was defeated, but as I understand it is not enforceable, certainly not a "meaningful" vote...

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Brexit  new day new chance  .

 

 

But thats what the people voted for just the so called smart negoatiors didnt get the job done . 

 

March 29 is March 29 but as Always there will be delay  the time playing game 

the waiting game 

 

Who knows hard breXit then 6 months shambles after that pick up the bits and make trade agreements with china america caneda uae leaving Europe crying and asking please mrs may can i come and see u please please 

 

Only thing that i hope will not happen is that north south ireland start war again 

 

Never want to see violence like that again herendus .

 

so good luck to al

 

 

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Theresa May heads the Government.
 
It’s Parliament she’s having trouble with (thanks to members of her own party).
 
I trust we don’t need to re-run the ‘Government for beginners’ course again.

You need to re-run the actual situation to help yourself understand:
She’s a PM running her own duplicitous Remain agenda. Her ‘Government’ fortunately includes the ERG, CON rebels and DUP members, who don’t agree with her ‘deal’, hence her defeats.

Better write a new module for your ‘Government in Action Course’



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Or they can envoke parliamentary sovereignty and do something else.

They’ve tried but can’t get a majority to steam roller their own way through the Withdrawal Act, which they all previously voted on and passed by majority.


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4 hours ago, smedly said:

The people of the UK voted to leave - that is done and dusted, there possibly be scope for how we leave

“Would you like a beer that’s the most delicious you’ll ever taste?”
“Yes please”
“Ok but it is £12 a pint”
“In that case I’ve changed my mind”
“Not possible sorry”
“But I didn’t know the cost”
“Too late now”
“And it looks horrible”
“Just hold your nose and drink it”

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5 hours ago, smedly said:

The people of the UK voted to leave - that is done and dusted, there possibly be scope for how we leave

How about we leave with the deal that the Brexit campaigners promised in the referendum.  Of course they cannot deliver that and so we are left with the utter shambles that we have.  I am yet to meet a Brexiteer that voted to leave with no deal because they were promised a deal and an easy to achieve one at that.

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