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NewGen Airways ground staff disciplined after rant at Chinese tourist

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6 hours ago, cracker1 said:

"They said that the weight limits on carry on bags were for passenger safety in the event of an emergency"

I would like to hear an expanded explanation of this statement ?

During an emergency, aren’t we supposed to abandon our bags in the luggage compartment as being informed ample times? 

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6 hours ago, cracker1 said:

"They said that the weight limits on carry on bags were for passenger safety in the event of an emergency"

I would like to hear an expanded explanation of this statement ?

Me too. I think it's just BS.

British Airways (OK - not a short-haul budget airline) has a 23kg limit on cabin baggage (economy class). I'm pretty sure that BA has equal or better safet regs than NewGen Airways.

 

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9 hours ago, Ulic said:

In North America 10kg, most airlines here 7kg, this company 5kg. Nothing to do with safety. Everything to do with forcing passengers to check luggage at extra cost (although this time done at no charge). That said when you fly an LCC you have extreme limits/rules.

Seems to be the case... if it was about safety, it wouldn't be only the budget airlines that do it.  If it was about safety, it wouldn't have only become a "thing" right around the time of the beginning of airlines' nickel-and-diming... (unless it was around more than ten years ago and I just didn't hear of it).

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18 hours ago, cracker1 said:

"They said that the weight limits on carry on bags were for passenger safety in the event of an emergency"

I would like to hear an expanded explanation of this statement ?

It's not rocket science. The overhead lockers are built to carry a certain load, and not collapse under the aircrafts rated g-limits, probably +4/-2g. Under 4g a 5kg bag weighs 20kg, a 7kg bag weigjs 28kg, and a 13kg bag weighs? Yes, you got it, a whopping 52kg!

 

Now imagine two rows of 3 passengers each, all with overweight bags in the locker overhead, let's say 10 kg each. That's 60kg, under 4g becomes 240kg. The locker is only rated to 6*7kg*4g = 168kg. What happens to the excess 72kg? It breaks the locker, and dumps the contents (240kg!) on someone below.

 

Not all aircraft lockers are equally strong, and I have used the 7kg limit. An A380 may be able to take 23kg, an ATR or a Caravan can not, and possibly budget airlines with denser seating patterns use weaker lockers.

 

There is of course a designed-in safety margin above and beyond the rared limits, but - In a real emergency, the aircraft may well sustain g-loading well over the rated limit. Something will definitely break!

 

I will not bore you to death with the small matters of loading, weight and balance, suffice it to say it is well within the capabilities of overweight, in all senses, passengers and their baggage, to render an aircraft unsafe if rules are ignored.

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18 hours ago, Cereal said:

Man.....I was a long haul flight attendant for many years. I have tried, just now, to imagine a worse job in the airline business than flying in and out of China exclusively.

 

Can't do it. Can't imagine it at all.

 

In general, Chinese passengers are the worst I ever saw. Japanese were the best.

.... and now the Indians are coming!!!

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Carry on cabin bags are 3 to 4 kg.

 

Not true, plenty of the market that are very very light and even under 1 kg, and often not expensive.

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14 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

Me too. I think it's just BS.

British Airways (OK - not a short-haul budget airline) has a 23kg limit on cabin baggage (economy class). I'm pretty sure that BA has equal or better safet regs than NewGen Airways.

 

NO They DON'T British Airways have a 23kgs Limit on Hold Baggage.....Go 1kg over that & They'll charge you 60.00 GBP....

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15 hours ago, Ulic said:

when you fly an LCC you have extreme limits/rules.

And rightly so. Why should they have the same privileges as 'full paying' customers?

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On 2/15/2019 at 9:32 AM, webfact said:

The Chinese tourist bound from Don Muang to Guiyang wanted to carry on a 13 kg bag even though the airline's regulations state the limit is 5 kg.

No need for apologies here 

Chinese is wrong 

But Thailand is to scared to lose this first class quality tourist 

If that was a farang there had been no apologies for sure 

 

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On 2/15/2019 at 11:08 AM, SammyT said:

Ugh, how about blaming the passenger who decided to circumvent the generally well-known rules made by cut-priced airlines about baggage weight? St

Exactly. The airline was wrong to buckle to a customer knowingly trying to circumvent the airlines rules. It leads to other customers 

trying to do the same. 

 

I don’t like the rule but if I choose to fly on budget airline I go by 

their rules.

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