TopDeadSenter Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Thomas J said: These are the figures released from ICE on illegal aliens that were arrested in the past 2 years. Despite being only 3% of the USA population, illegals represent 20% of the total population in the U.S. federal penitentiaries. There were 73,000 deaths from opiods in the USA last year. 80% of it comes across the Mexico/U.S. border. What do you call an emergency. The opiod deaths alone are greater than the deaths in the Vietnam. war. Thanks for that. It was obvious the "official" figures that illegal immigrants commit less crime than real Americans were less than honest. Like Trump said just look how many are in prison compared to the % they make of the total population. Time to fire the team that ginned the stats. Trump once again proven right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Thomas J said: These are the figures released from ICE on illegal aliens that were arrested in the past 2 years. Despite being only 3% of the USA population, illegals represent 20% of the total population in the U.S. federal penitentiaries. There were 73,000 deaths from opiods in the USA last year. 80% of it comes across the Mexico/U.S. border. What do you call an emergency. The opiod deaths alone are greater than the deaths in the Vietnam. war. Nice try! The main reason why illegal aliens are arrested is....... illegal stay ???? And about drugs: most of of them are smuggled through official entry points (hidden in various vehicules and trains), or through tunnels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, candide said: Nice try! The main reason why illegal aliens are arrested is....... illegal stay ???? And about drugs: most of of them are smuggled through official entry points (hidden in various vehicules and trains), or through tunnels. So that means we should just let them in? Incidentally. the term “criminal alien” refers to aliens who have been convicted of one or more crimes, whether in the United States or abroad, prior to interdiction by U.S. Law Enforcement; it does not include convictions for conduct that is not deemed criminal by the United States. Confusing I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Here's a link: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/ Thank you for that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 hours ago, billd766 said: Can you specify exactly what those national emergencies were. After all you claimed it, but posted no links or references as to what they were. Oddly enough Yellowtail in post #159 sent me a link which is the same one that you posted in its entirety which did the same as you but more succinctly. Why couldn't you do that in your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Reporter to Trump: "What do you base your facts on?" https://www.yahoo.com/news/reporter-trump-facts-165328537.html The man (and I use that term loosely) is a disaster and a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, billd766 said: Oddly enough Yellowtail in post #159 sent me a link which is the same one that you posted in its entirety which did the same as you but more succinctly. Why couldn't you do that in your post? Until you have your posts deleted a few times you don't realize its a requirement. You think, hey if they don't believe me, they could just google it. Unfortunately, with searches, one often gets inundated with "statistics" from sources that support open borders and do little more than provide a bold headline that supports their position, then goes on to provide cherry-picked data to make the headline appear factual. It's the same thing Trump sometimes does when he makes a statement. The only difference is that all the "news" sources call him out. No one calls the news out, and their headlines are assumed by many to be factual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Until you have your posts deleted a few times you don't realize its a requirement. You think, hey if they don't believe me, they could just google it. Unfortunately, with searches, one often gets inundated with "statistics" from sources that support open borders and do little more than provide a bold headline that supports their position, then goes on to provide cherry-picked data to make the headline appear factual. It's the same thing Trump sometimes does when he makes a statement. The only difference is that all the "news" sources call him out. No one calls the news out, and their headlines are assumed by many to be factual. Nonsense. News sources call themselves and competitors out continuously. The difference is news outlets correct themselves if they made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Becker said: Reporter to Trump: "What do you base your facts on?" https://www.yahoo.com/news/reporter-trump-facts-165328537.html The man (and I use that term loosely) is a disaster and a disgrace. The same reporter that claimed there was no violence on the border, that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Well, that won't last long...lefty doesn't have much of a sense of humor...unless it's about the right. The thing about a joke is that it should be based on the truth. Since a wall will have virtually no effect on drug trafficking, it's a laugh based on a falsehood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, bristolboy said: The thing about a joke is that it should be based on the truth. Since a wall will have virtually no effect on drug trafficking, it's a laugh based on a falsehood. I thought the wall was to slow illegal immigration, no? I further understand that the better protected the border is, the more resources can be used at points of entry, is that not also true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 hours ago, mogandave said: I’m guessing you didn’t get past the headline huh? I wonder why they are so selective with the data the present? The article seems to be bouncing all over, I guess that’s what happens when an author starts out with a headline they need to justify. Why always...deny, deny, deny??? While everyone is entitled to their own opinions...none of us are entitled to our own facts. The article is not made up BS to justify the headline. The facts and stats are gathered (and have been consistent), THEN the results are what produce the headline. Forbes is a Right leaning media source, but sorry it is does not not meet your FNC...Faux News Channel...standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Numerous off-topic, baiting, bickering posts have been removed along with replies. CONTINUE AND YOU WILL FACE A SUSPENSION. Also, posts violating Fair Use Policy removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I wonder if Trump and his illiberal supporters have considered ‘thoughts and prayes’ as a means to protect the southern border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 More troll posts have been removed. This is the final warning. Suspensions will follow if it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Yellowtail said: The same reporter that claimed there was no violence on the border, that one? Yes, the man that misspoke and immediately corrected it once it was pointed out. You know, the way sane and mature adults who are rooted in reality do it as opposed to you know who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The way he is keeping his base is out of fear. He said years ago the best way to manage people was FEAR. Just read Bob Woodward's book FEAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: The agenda is so bad they can only talk about trump. To hide their ideas which are insanely bad. You can see this based upon how few stories are published based upon the dems strategies. We can’t even get one story of accomplishments out of the dems here. The dems will lose by a much wider margin than they expect. You mean like raising taxes on the rich? Fox News Hosts Are Horrified to Learn Their Own Polls Show People Want to Tax the Rich Fox News Hosts Are Horrified to Learn Their Own Polls Show People Want to Tax the Rich It turns out that even Fox News can't find a way to hijack those numbers. The network's own polls, conducted at the end of January, found a staggering 70 percent of respondents supported raising taxes on annual income over $10 million. In fact, 65 percent were down for raising taxes on those making over $1 million per year. https://www.gq.com/story/fox-news-tax-poll-fairness Most Americans Support Increasing Taxes on the Wealthy: Poll http://fortune.com/2019/02/04/support-for-tax-increase-on-wealthy-americans-poll/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, bristolboy said: You mean like raising taxes on the rich? Fox News Hosts Are Horrified to Learn Their Own Polls Show People Want to Tax the Rich Fox News Hosts Are Horrified to Learn Their Own Polls Show People Want to Tax the Rich It turns out that even Fox News can't find a way to hijack those numbers. The network's own polls, conducted at the end of January, found a staggering 70 percent of respondents supported raising taxes on annual income over $10 million. In fact, 65 percent were down for raising taxes on those making over $1 million per year. https://www.gq.com/story/fox-news-tax-poll-fairness Most Americans Support Increasing Taxes on the Wealthy: Poll http://fortune.com/2019/02/04/support-for-tax-increase-on-wealthy-americans-poll/ Suddenly Fox News is valid if it supports your views? That’s pretty weak.if I quoted Fox News you would say I am a liar. You can’t have it both w@ys https://www.foxnews.com/tech/bill-gates-slams-ocasio-cortez-says-her-tax-policy-is-missing-the-picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: Suddenly Fox News is valid if it supports your views? That’s pretty weak.if I quoted Fox News you would say I am a liar. You can’t have it both w@ys https://www.foxnews.com/tech/bill-gates-slams-ocasio-cortez-says-her-tax-policy-is-missing-the-picture I quoted Fox News because it's a case of "even Fox News" There are plenty of other polls that support this. I purposely chose Fox instead of others to forestall the usual objections about liberal bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Numerous off-topic, troll posts and replies removed. Continue with nonsense and off-topic bickering and face a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaceArrow Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 True American Patriots understand the situation on the U.S. Southern Border!! Bleeding Heart Liberals, Socialist, Left Wing nutcases, the Democrat Party in general, along with a few RINO’s and the uninformed Millenials that listen to MSM fake news networks that don’t televise what is really going on and just push the negative Anti-President Trump commentary, according to the statutes in the National Emergencies Act of 1976, a President has the full authority to declare a national emergency that allows him to expand his executive power. For those of you that may be unaware since President Ford passed the National Emergency Act of 1976, there have been 58 such acts issued since President Carter! 31 such acts are still currently in effect, re-approved by successive Presidents with Bush and Obama issuing the most. Currently, 1 by Carter; 6 by Clinton; 11 by Bush; and 10 by Obama; remain in effect!! President Trump had only issued 3 up to l4 Feb 2019. President Trump is on solid ground not only per the Act of 1976 but by Constitutional authority granted the Executive branch despite all the Obstructionist complaints by Congressional members, Fake news media outlets, former officials. He is also covered by Article II of U.S. Constitution as the Nation’s Chief Executive to ensure the Laws of the Land are faithfully executed. One such Law is U.S.Code Title 8 that deals with Aliens and Nationality for the country. The Customs and Border Patrol agency has been demanding more fencing, stronger barriers to replace the current weak areas of the Border. Both Political Parties have over the past two decades agreed and provided funding to do so, but too often wasn’t followed through because of politics. President Trump made this a Hallmark of his election campaign to finally be the President to fix the major problems with loose Immigration laws that allow illegals to circumvent the system and build stronger wall protection to keep the Drug Cartels, Human Traffickers, Criminals, violent Gang members, and Terrorist the “Hell out of the Country”!. At present there is upward to 50-60K illegal entries, that is nearly an 1800 average per day. Totally unacceptable. What do you think other countries would be doing if they had 1800 illegals coming into their country every day??? Those of you that just want to further fuel the need to criticize because it may seem to be the “In” thing for you to do, more than likely don’t fully understand the significance of the Economical, Educational, Medical, Legal, and Social ramifications on a Proud Nation that will be no more, if this isn’t dealt with by President Trump now! The American citizens (native born and legally immigrated) are totally fed up with all the politicians that have nothing to offer but excuses for not wanting to fully Secure and Protect against the Illegal Invasion into the country while the Human and Monetary cost of American deaths caused by Illegal Aliens, Illegal Drugs, Criminal gangs continue to skyrocket. The American people that care about the country have had enough of it and it needs to Stop now!!! God Bless President Trump and may God continue to Bless the United States of America!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Rut-row...here we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 7:50 AM, bushdoctor said: The article says Trump made no mention of the spending bill in his speech, but I watched it...and he did. The article also says signing the spending bill was a defeat for Trump. Trump feels it was a win, since the democrats had stated they would not give $1 early on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I personaly dislike bias news stories. I’m of the side of neutral reporting of news from the news media, and letting people decide for themselves what they think, rather than trying to sway their opinions. Let's take a good look at all the "Bias News"... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/19/lara_logan_hits_media_for_becoming_left-wing_propagandists_horseshit_low_standards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 12:02 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Which of these was an attempt to bypass Congress’ checks and balances on the President subject to Congress voting against that which the President hoped to achieve with his declaration of ‘a national emergency’? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/19/lara_logan_hits_media_for_becoming_left-wing_propagandists_horseshit_low_standards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 17 hours ago, PaceArrow said: True American Patriots understand the situation on the U.S. Southern Border!! Bleeding Heart Liberals, Socialist, Left Wing nutcases, the Democrat Party in general, along with a few RINO’s and the uninformed Millenials that listen to MSM fake news networks that don’t televise what is really going on and just push the negative Anti-President Trump commentary, according to the statutes in the National Emergencies Act of 1976, a President has the full authority to declare a national emergency that allows him to expand his executive power. For those of you that may be unaware since President Ford passed the National Emergency Act of 1976, there have been 58 such acts issued since President Carter! 31 such acts are still currently in effect, re-approved by successive Presidents with Bush and Obama issuing the most. Currently, 1 by Carter; 6 by Clinton; 11 by Bush; and 10 by Obama; remain in effect!! President Trump had only issued 3 up to l4 Feb 2019. President Trump is on solid ground not only per the Act of 1976 but by Constitutional authority granted the Executive branch despite all the Obstructionist complaints by Congressional members, Fake news media outlets, former officials. He is also covered by Article II of U.S. Constitution as the Nation’s Chief Executive to ensure the Laws of the Land are faithfully executed. One such Law is U.S.Code Title 8 that deals with Aliens and Nationality for the country. The Customs and Border Patrol agency has been demanding more fencing, stronger barriers to replace the current weak areas of the Border. Both Political Parties have over the past two decades agreed and provided funding to do so, but too often wasn’t followed through because of politics. President Trump made this a Hallmark of his election campaign to finally be the President to fix the major problems with loose Immigration laws that allow illegals to circumvent the system and build stronger wall protection to keep the Drug Cartels, Human Traffickers, Criminals, violent Gang members, and Terrorist the “Hell out of the Country”!. At present there is upward to 50-60K illegal entries, that is nearly an 1800 average per day. Totally unacceptable. What do you think other countries would be doing if they had 1800 illegals coming into their country every day??? Those of you that just want to further fuel the need to criticize because it may seem to be the “In” thing for you to do, more than likely don’t fully understand the significance of the Economical, Educational, Medical, Legal, and Social ramifications on a Proud Nation that will be no more, if this isn’t dealt with by President Trump now! The American citizens (native born and legally immigrated) are totally fed up with all the politicians that have nothing to offer but excuses for not wanting to fully Secure and Protect against the Illegal Invasion into the country while the Human and Monetary cost of American deaths caused by Illegal Aliens, Illegal Drugs, Criminal gangs continue to skyrocket. The American people that care about the country have had enough of it and it needs to Stop now!!! God Bless President Trump and may God continue to Bless the United States of America!!!! Trump has Superpower to make liberals cry like little girls... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/19/lara_logan_hits_media_for_becoming_left-wing_propagandists_horseshit_low_standards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Senate votes again to block Trump’s national emergency over the border but fails to get veto-proof majority The Senate votes again to block President Trump’s national emergency declaration over the southern border. Trump is using the declaration to divert $3.6 billion from military construction projects to his proposed border wall. Eleven Republicans voted with Democrats to terminate the declaration, down from 12 in March. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/senate-votes-to-block-trump-national-emergency-over-border-wall.html In other related news, who wants to visit the new southern border wall/zoo? Purchase a few immigrant children, then feed them to the alligators, what fun. President Trump talked about shooting migrants, using alligators at the border, according new book According to reporting from the New York Times, President Donald Trump had at times privately talked about “fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh.” Additionally, after aides told him that his public suggestion of soldiers shooting migrants if they threw rocks was illegal, he backed down. But, he later suggested that they “shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down.” "That’s not allowed either, (staff) told him," according to the excerpt. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/01/border-wall-book-details-turbulent-week-donald-trumps-directives/3836341002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage. The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html Forget bannning assault weapons. Ban power tools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage. The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html Forget bannning assault weapons. Ban power tools! Trump visits border wall construction, calls technology 'virtually impenetrable' During the tour, Trump praised the wall’s features, encouraging TV cameras to get an up-close picture of the slats, which officials said were constructed out of steel and concrete. “Virtually impenetrable,” Trump described them. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-visits-border-wall-construction-calls-technology-virtually-inpenetrable-n1056161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage. The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/smugglers-are-sawing-through-new-sections-of-trumps-border-wall/2019/11/01/25bf8ce0-fa72-11e9-ac8c-8eced29ca6ef_story.html Forget bannning assault weapons. Ban power tools! Well as usual you can blame the liberals for the border security breaches. Trump (and by proxy US taxpayers) wanted a "menacing" border, but guess who had a tantrum over that plan? I'd like to see these drug gangs saw through a moat filled with poisonous snakes and gators. "The authors claim that Mr Trump asked his advisers about including a moat, infested with snakes or alligators. Aides have reportedly looked into the cost of such a deterrent" https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/10/05/an-absurd-reckoning-of-donald-trumps-border-moat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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