ghworker2010 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I raised this thread and learnt a lot from some of the esteemed members of this forum: I subsequently put 8 sand bags in the back of my pickup and then visited the tire shop where I originally purchased the cheap low quality chinese tires. I told them that last week in the rain I proceeded to overtake at normal speed and my pickup slid (lost control) for a few seconds. Also mentioned that driving fast over pot holes the car is not handling well- feels like its bouncing around a bit / losing control. They swapped the rear tires and put in the front/ rear in the back. After this I showed them the extra weight in the back and he said that he should top up 45 in the rear tires and 35 in the front. Is this correct? One of them looked under the back of the truck and suggested I pay 3200 for the gadget in the photo. What is this for? Is it worth the money? thanks again IMG_1610.HEIC IMG_2795.HEIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Why buy cheap tyres in the first place? As the part of the vehicle usually with the most contact on the road surface why would you want to scrimp? You get what you pay for and ultimately end up paying more. Splash out on a decent set of Michelins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 My (2005) Ranger 4-door calls for 39 rear, 30 front for full load operation. Check the driver's door for a placard with recommended pressures. Whatever you do, don't go above the "maximum pressure" stated on the tyre sidewall. Also, please can you post images using a common codec, like .jpg so we non Apple users we can view them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 If the tyres are original fitment size then do what the sticker says on the drivers side door jam...DO NOT listen to garage staff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ghworker2010 said: I raised this thread and learnt a lot from some of the esteemed members of this forum: You are going about this the wrong way. Hook up with the local culture and she'll handle like a champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said: You are going about this the wrong way. Hook up with the local culture and she'll handle like a champ. Yep, planted in a tree....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Get new tyres (good ones). Tyres just aren't worth trying to skimp on. Take it to a shop that can do a proper wheel alignment and balance as well. As others have said, follow the recommended psi on your door placard. If you're still having trouble then start looking at suspension and steering. I have a pretty modified pickup and the only time mine loses traction is when I give it a boot. From what you've described though, I'd guess your tyres are overinflated and unbalanced for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, transam said: Yep, planted in a tree....???? You could be right considering the OP wets his panties every time the back end breaks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Crossy said: My (2005) Ranger 4-door calls for 39 rear, 30 front for full load operation. Check the driver's door for a placard with recommended pressures. Whatever you do, don't go above the "maximum pressure" stated on the tyre sidewall. Also, please can you post images using a common codec, like .jpg so we non Apple users we can view them. Really? 39 psi rear? Our 2008 4 door Hilux Prerunner is 29 all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: Really? 39 psi rear? Our 2008 4 door Hilux Prerunner is 29 all round. Yup 30-30 for passenger use 30-39 for a full load of mangoes:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgarfriendly Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 OP seems a bit blurry & ignorant of facts pertaining to his own vehicle. my 4 door triton has 32psi all round as 'loaded' refers to a huge weight and putting bags of sand in the back to smooth the ride is borderline retarded. fuel consumption?? lol im wondering if OP would be better off on a bicycle or employing a driver/chauffeur... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ghworker2010 said: After this I showed them the extra weight in the back and he said that he should top up 45 in the rear tires and 35 in the front. Is this correct? My take is it doesn't matter what road tyres you buy, comfort always depends on the air PSI within the tyre and the suspension type on the vehicle. Also depends what Isuzu you have to know would help because there are different model types with different size tyres, I found the 4 door rode better than the 2 door smartcab we bought. I guess 4 doors are bought as cars in a way where as we wanted a workhorse. When our Isuzu Hi-Lander is loaded 29 front 41 rear recommended. When I use just as a car the hard suspension is for heavy work so to compensate 27 front 27 rear with soft Bridgestones it's not a bad ride, They reckon these are the best shocks for pick ups if there adjustable maybe even better. Bilstein (24-186742) 5100 Series Rear Shock Absorber. ... Bilstein 24-187367 5100 Series Front Shock. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve73 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3200bt for 3 (or possibly more) sheep seems a pretty good deal.... Or am I reading the OP incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Crossy said: Yup 30-30 for passenger use 30-39 for a full load of mangoes:- 1 persons weight 75 kg. ???? So 30 all around with no load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: Really? 39 psi rear? Our 2008 4 door Hilux Prerunner is 29 all round. Vigo's have many sizes of tyres, my 4x4 had 29 PSI all round loaded or unloaded...Other small tyre Vigo's had waaaaay higher pressures.....The door jam tells all for your ride.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: 1 persons weight 75 kg. ???? So 30 all around with no load. For a 2005 Ford Ranger 4-door 4x4 yes. Your truck handbook should have the recommended pressures if there's no sticker on the driver's door (our sticker is not visible from farang head height, stooping is required to even see that it's there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 My (2005) Ranger 4-door calls for 39 rear, 30 front for full load operation. Check the driver's door for a placard with recommended pressures. Whatever you do, don't go above the "maximum pressure" stated on the tyre sidewall. Also, please can you post images using a common codec, like .jpg so we non Apple users we can view them. Images for non Apple (cc) users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Hmmmm, I was expecting some sort of leaf extension, wazzit supposed to do? EDIT Facebore page https://www.facebook.com/28shop4x4/posts/กันโคลงหลัง-gorilla-armสอบถามราคาทาง-inbox-เลยนะครับ-หรือ-สอบถามข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมไ/1958088827548110/ Apparently it's a "rear stabiliser". It fits like this:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghworker2010 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Crossy said: Hmmmm, I was expecting some sort of leaf extension, wazzit supposed to do? EDIT Facebore page https://www.facebook.com/28shop4x4/posts/กันโคลงหลัง-gorilla-armสอบถามราคาทาง-inbox-เลยนะครับ-หรือ-สอบถามข้อมูลเพิ่มเติมไ/1958088827548110/ Apparently it's a "rear stabiliser". It fits like this:- does anyone know if this is worth paying for? No one really answered the question if 45PSI is safe with the heavy load in the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, ghworker2010 said: does anyone know if this is worth paying for? No one really answered the question if 45PSI is safe with the heavy load in the back What does your door jam sticker SAY...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 3 hours ago, ghworker2010 said: driving fast over pot holes the car is not handling well- feels like its bouncing around a bit / losing control. What would you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crossy said: Hmmmm, I was expecting some sort of leaf extension, wazzit supposed to do? I think it is designed to transfer/equalize the leaf springs. Almost the reversal of independent suspension side to side. Maybe useful on very rough surfaces but can not see it doing much for traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ghworker2010 said: No one really answered the question if 45PSI is safe with the heavy load in the back If it's not greater than the "maximum continuous inflation pressure" on the sidewall it will be fine. Might be a bit lively with nothing in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I run 40psi all round on my Vigo. Max psi stated on tire wall is 54psi. For some that might seem a bit high in the front but I hate the feeling of "sledging" on corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 One thing to check regularly is the state of the shock absorbers. I have found that they do not last well. Probably due to the combination of high temps and so common rough roads. If they are unequal in the front it can play havoc on the ABS response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, ghworker2010 said: does anyone know if this is worth paying for? I think it's supposed to calm down the rear end, reduce body roll and the like. It may help if you run empty when set up for loads. Please note - No warranty is implied or inferred by the above post ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 My pickup Isuzu - 10 y old - ( it's a 4x2 ) 4 doors and automatic transmission had Firestone tyres ; I did 127.000 km with factory-fitted tires , see photos, they were not yet shabby , have a look In every garage in Thailand they want to put 40 PSI in the four wheels even it's written 29 inside one of the door; even in Isuzu garage in Sawang Daen Din they were surprised to discover this inscription Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerostar Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, transam said: Yep, planted in a tree....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said: One thing to check regularly is the state of the shock absorbers. I have found that they do not last well. Probably due to the combination of high temps and so common rough roads. If they are unequal in the front it can play havoc on the ABS response. 1 hour ago, Dumbastheycome said: I run 40psi all round on my Vigo. Max psi stated on tire wall is 54psi. For some that might seem a bit high in the front but I hate the feeling of "sledging" on corners. So what does the door jam sticker say regarding your Vigo tyre PSI...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, transam said: So what does the door jam sticker say regarding your Vigo tyre PSI...? 38F 42R unladen 38 F 51R Laden. That will be for the tyre rating as factory fitted whatever they were. I am running Maxxis Bravo A/T. Do the job for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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