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BANGKOK 22 March 2019 13:21
Jonathan Fairfield

Holding the balance: Phuket Immigration clarifies new rules on retirement visas to start March 1

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This is the main problem. No two Immigration offices or even two immigration officers in the same building work to the same official rules that are supposedly laid down in black and white by the management, so what chance have we got.

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2 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

bit like London or Birmingham in the UK

And all the better for the diversity 

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34 minutes ago, khastan said:

This is the main problem. No two Immigration offices or even two immigration officers in the same building work to the same official rules that are supposedly laid down in black and white by the management, so what chance have we got.

This is true, it's no big deal really, as I simply carry on getting 15 months off a year visa, and I tend to take trips out of Thailand 2 or 3 times a year on holiday to coincide with my 90 day runs, it's just frustrating that you have all the correct paperwork, are married with 3 kids here but still can't extend!!…..TIT.

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1 hour ago, PST said:

I was at Phuket immigration earlier this week and they refused my extension (based on marriage) on the basis that the letter of income from the embassy was 'not valid'. I showed them police reports, and the latest statement from the Phuket news that stated otherwise, but to no avail

The IO spoke to a senior IO first before telling me this, I then mentioned it to a volunteer who then went back and spoke to same senior IO (a woman from had yai), and I was told that NO letters from the embassy are being now accepted at Phuket for marriage extension OR retirement

That’s very bad news, and from Phuket where I thought they were a stickler for doing it by the book...And still several months to run on issued letters , maybe contact local consulate for comment?

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57 minutes ago, PST said:

This is true, it's no big deal really, as I simply carry on getting 15 months off a year visa, and I tend to take trips out of Thailand 2 or 3 times a year on holiday to coincide with my 90 day runs, it's just frustrating that you have all the correct paperwork, are married with 3 kids here but still can't extend!!…..TIT.

Your very forgiving! Just illustrates how reliable not the good for 6 months crap was!

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23 hours ago, fabman5 said:

can somebody please confirm,  I have a proof of monthly income letter,  from the British Embassy,  Got in December,  I was told this would be valid for 6 months, My current visa runs out in March. Am I still going to be able to use this letter to renew my visa?  Thanks for any advice 

 

 

No.

 

A local immigration office today said that they will not accept them after 1st March.

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13 minutes ago, brexiteer said:

 

 

No.

 

A local immigration office today said that they will not accept them after 1st March.

@ubonjoe - what do you suggest they do?

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2 hours ago, PST said:

I was at Phuket immigration earlier this week and they refused my extension (based on marriage) on the basis that the letter of income from the embassy was 'not valid'. I showed them police reports, and the latest statement from the Phuket news that stated otherwise, but to no avail

The IO spoke to a senior IO first before telling me this, I then mentioned it to a volunteer who then went back and spoke to same senior IO (a woman from had yai), and I was told that NO letters from the embassy are being now accepted at Phuket for marriage extension OR retirement

As thought....here🤔

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On 2/17/2019 at 4:37 PM, sfokevin said:

Yes they will be accepted but one could read the Phuket’s latest “clarification” to mean that in addition to the embassy letter you will need to submit additional proof being a bank statements/bankbook (Presumably Thai) showing the 65k coming into Thailand...

 

Of course any financial statements from banks and copies of bankbook records proving this income already being received should be provided”

 

If this is true the affidavit is essentially useless... :coffee1:

 

As best as I recall, the Phuket article and such never actually said THAI bank books or bank statements, it just said bank statements and bank books as supporting evidence.

 

On its face, that would seem to suggest that they'd accept home country bank books and statements. But given this is Thai Immigration, I seriously doubt that is the case, and instead, just chalk it up to more inaccurate and imprecise reporting by the local media on stuff they really don't understand in the first place.

 

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45 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Phuket where I thought they were a stickler for doing it by the book

eh...well and no punch intended but after two decades here I will thought the opposite.....😔

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25 minutes ago, brexiteer said:

A local immigration office today said that they will not accept them after 1st March.

Which office? It would help to know that.

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13 minutes ago, pontious said:

@ubonjoe - what do you suggest they do?

The new rules that start on March 1st have nothing to with the income option. The order issued on December 21st states they are still allowed.

Calling 1178 might get some results.

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10 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

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But that might only be needed as back up proof if a person has proof of income from their embassy.

 

Joe, is this what you're saying/meaning above re the new financials for retirement extensions?

 

--If the applicant is relying on an Embassy income letter to prove their 65K baht monthly income, they might well expect Immigration to also want to see some source documentation regarding that income. But they're not required to show proof of deposits into a Thai bank account when they have an Embassy letter.

 

--But if the applicant is among those who no longer has access to Embassy income letters and is instead depositing the funds into a Thai bank account monthly as the alternative, then the Thai bank book and supporting letter generally ought to suffice.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

As best as I recall, the Phuket article and such never actually said THAI bank books or bank statements, it just said bank statements and bank books as supporting evidence.

 

On its face, that would seem to suggest that they'd accept home country bank books and statements. But given this is Thai Immigration, I seriously doubt that is the case, and instead, just chalk it up to more inaccurate and imprecise reporting by the local media on stuff they really don't understand in the first place.

 

I already think I hear it....okay embassy letter, updated bankbook, bank letter.......no 800K...yes but Police order say can use proof...hereafter It will be only A.........💲💲💲😉

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8 hours ago, merijn said:

So far it is explained to me is that in case you have a income certificate from the Embassy / Consul the pension, the normal supporting papers are enough (same as before) and the money deposits conformation are not required.

The money deposit proof for the 12 months are only required for the countries which don't supply the income certificate anymore.

 

That's what I thought also!

 

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