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BANGKOK 24 March 2019 06:21
Jonathan Fairfield

Holding the balance: Phuket Immigration clarifies new rules on retirement visas to start March 1

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Sounds reasaonable. Lets see how it works out in practice.

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On 2/17/2019 at 10:17 AM, dotpoom said:

Looks like the 800,000Bt. only has to be lodged for 5 months according to everything I have read, not 6 months. Under the old rules it had to be lodged for 3 months prior to the application being made (except for 1st. time applicants, which was 2 months). Now that appears to have been changed to two months (which surprised me) and for the next 3 months after receiving your extention. 

 

So what happens if the amount dips below 800k within 3 months after getting the visa? Do we have to go to immigration to show our bank balance again? 

 

This is just one ridiculous requirement. Why not make it 5 months before application date. At least, the bank book will show.

 

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34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

As best as I recall, the Phuket article and such never actually said THAI bank books or bank statements, it just said bank statements and bank books as supporting evidence.

 

On its face, that would seem to suggest that they'd accept home country bank books and statements. But given this is Thai Immigration, I seriously doubt that is the case, and instead, just chalk it up to more inaccurate and imprecise reporting by the local media on stuff they really don't understand in the first place.

 

You do understand that there are more than 100 countries in the world.

 

Do you expect Thai immigration to verify the authenticity of the bank books and the all the different language?

 

Foreign bank statements can be forged , not difficult in this digital age.

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I was applying for extension based on marriage, not retirement, letter from British embassy was completely dismissed, regardless of all the proof I had to back the letter up. When I told the volunteer, he was shocked, and went straight away to speak to the senior IO, nd came back to me and said that 'within the last 4 or 5 days' a decision had been made to dismiss all letters from the embassy, whether it be for marriage or retirement, he also said ( which I found strange), that anyone who has used the letter since Jan 1st this year, would need to ' re-submit' their applications??

 

 

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23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The new rules that start on March 1st have nothing to with the income option. The order issued on December 21st states they are still allowed.

Calling 1178 might get some results.

 UJ, the guy was told “the income letter was NOT valid”, nothing about back up proof as an extra? Surely that’s either correct or not . Do the Embassies have any further chance of a say in what is clearly differing from the original assurance they were given that the letters would be honoured for 6 months? Is this the first case a valid letter has been dismissed off hand?

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2 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 UJ, the guy was told “the income letter was NOT valid”, nothing about back up proof as an extra? Surely that’s either correct or not . Do the Embassies have any further chance of a say in what is clearly differing from the original assurance they were given that the letters would be honoured for 6 months? Is this the first case a valid letter has been dismissed off hand?

I had back up proof, it wasn't taken into consideration. As a side note, the income stated on my letter from the embassy was almost double the amount needed per month to get the letter,,,,,,,no can do, What concerned me, and more so for other people, is that they were aamant that any letters presented to them after 1st Jan were 'invalid'

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15 minutes ago, EricTh said:

You do understand that there are more than 100 countries in the world.

 

Do you expect Thai immigration to verify the authenticity of the bank books and the all the different language?

 

Foreign bank statements can be forged , not difficult in this digital age.

 

If you actually read and understood my comments that you quoted, you'd understand that I was suggesting Thai Immigration probably will only want to see THAI bank books and letters as primary proof of monthly income in the absence of an Embassy income letter -- even though the Phuket news report never actually said "Thai" bank stuff... just bank stuff.

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49 minutes ago, Felt 35 said:

eh...well and no punch intended but after two decades here I will thought the opposite.....😔

Seems not now then, or maybe the letters from accepted embassies will be next cab off this rank? What’s stopping them as all credibility is lost anyway...

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9 minutes ago, PST said:

I had back up proof, it wasn't taken into consideration. As a side note, the income stated on my letter from the embassy was almost double the amount needed per month to get the letter,,,,,,,no can do, What concerned me, and more so for other people, is that they were aamant that any letters presented to them after 1st Jan were 'invalid'

Understood, I wasn,t doubting you, letters not valid is a complete turn around from what’s been published. 

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2 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Understood, I wasn,t doubting you, letters not valid is a complete turn around from what’s been published. 

And I wasn't doubting you, I would like to hear from anyone who has used the income letter at Phuket within the last 2 weeks, and been granted extension, at least that way it would give some hope to those who are due to apply (extension based on marriage, NOT retirement), but again, it worried me to hear that people who had used the letter after Jan 1st would need to re-submit their applications.

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55 minutes ago, PST said:

And I wasn't doubting you, I would like to hear from anyone who has used the income letter at Phuket within the last 2 weeks, and been granted extension, at least that way it would give some hope to those who are due to apply (extension based on marriage, NOT retirement), but again, it worried me to hear that people who had used the letter after Jan 1st would need to re-submit their applications.

Perhaps a new post, in Phuket forum, may be allowed by mods, or moved but briefly outlining your case, and see what surfaces? I think if your the first which I suspect, this should be highlighted to others who think they are ok ! I also believe it’s a slap in the face to embassies who have effectively been duped

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5 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I would be amazed too if what you said is true. But actually, if you can front up 4-800,000, then you don’t need to show a monthly income of 65,000

That was correct before big joke but I am led to believe this is no longer correct or will not be soon.

 

Maybe that wonderful font of information who has helped so many of us in the past would kindly enlighten us further, Over to you Joe Please.

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9 hours ago, Felt 35 said:

merijn. I allow me to ask you if its Immigration in Phuket and the officers at room 103 which take care of retirement extensions who have explained that to you or the populist report in Phuket News? IMO when reading "between the lines" in the Phuket News report it clearly shines through that more than a income letter will be demanded but to write that in a report will of course not be correct after the main Police order either will it be popular.

I have the information from the officers in room 103.

Therefore all information i have is only applicable for Phuket immigration.

 

7 hours ago, PST said:

I was at Phuket immigration earlier this week and they refused my extension (based on marriage) on the basis that the letter of income from the embassy was 'not valid'. I showed them police reports, and the latest statement from the Phuket news that stated otherwise, but to no avail

The IO spoke to a senior IO first before telling me this, I then mentioned it to a volunteer who then went back and spoke to same senior IO (a woman from had yai), and I was told that NO letters from the embassy are being now accepted at Phuket for marriage extension OR retirement

 

I heard today about the issue that the affidavits are not accepted but i don't know exactly why there are refused.

Was your income from a ( government ) pension or normal income / transfers.

Hopefully i get some more information shortly why and or when the (valid) affidavits form the UK, USA, Australia are suddenly not accepted anymore.

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18 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Big Joke,came to Chiang Mai,saw what was going on with immigration there,

and made changes,now they start at 8.00*,and extensions are done very quickly,

90 day I used to always do by post,last 4 reports I did online and works very well,

so only go to immigration office once a year,which is enough for me.

regards Worgeordie                                 *don't close for lunch either.

 

Big Joke will certainly fix the waiting times at C.M.

By getting rid of the agents who dump hundreds of applications at a time and make the queue to be slow.

 

but the waiting time is what many complain about, now some will have a worse problem.

 

kinda ironic isnt it!!

and one thing i noticed about Thailand,

if the farang complain to much

sure, they will fix the problem but when they fix it they like to create a worse problem than the original.

can be a lesson in that

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8 hours ago, EricTh said:

 

 

So what happens if the amount dips below 800k within 3 months after getting the visa? Do we have to go to immigration to show our bank balance again? 

 

This is just one ridiculous requirement. Why not make it 5 months before application date. At least, the bank book will show.

 

NO the bank balance after your application will be checked for the next years application.

If you went below the 800K for the first 3 months or 400K for the next 7 months and again 800K for the last 2 months you will "probable" not get the extension next time.

Therefore there is no need to show the bank account during the year but it will affect your next application.

 

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