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BANGKOK 25 March 2019 06:49
CaptainJack

Why, after 9 months, Retired in Thailand, I left and am back in the USA?

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20 hours ago, geisha said:

Good luck to you, I think you made the right decision. I always thought I’d retire here, after coming here every winter nearly for 30+ years. But Thailand has changed, and the people too. The once beautiful beaches and country side is fast slipping away. The pollution is only going to get worse, and the food is becoming more and more unhealthy daily. Those are my reasons. One more, the ever depreciation of the euro is making Thailand much more expensive to live. I find that a bit much for the lack of quality concerning infrastructure , building quality , ( I think my newish rented condo will fall down bit by bit in the next 5 years) and hospitals that do not, in my opinion, hit the mark for the price they cost. Also,  cherry on the cake,  is the very complicated visa process. 

 

 

So where you come from is utopia?

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, ChristianBlessing said:

I have complained of nothing at all, randomly or otherwise. The OP's post makes clear the potential difficulties for those wishing to retire in Thailand. I commended him for his clarity, and stated that as a fellow American I made a decision based on many of the same issues he described. I really don't feel the need to elaborate further.

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1 hour ago, puukao said:

Not yet 50......decided against Thailand for retirement.  easy to make Thai acquaintances, but not the same as friends back home.  you need to be super fluent in a language to make a strong friend, i think.  have a companion is easy, but that gets a little boring after a while.  pollution.  if you don't need to breathe bad air, why do you allow it?  visa hurdles.  there is always something.  it's also hard to rely on people, farangs or natives.  most farangs like the sex tourism, and who wants to retire with that group?  to avoid it all, go rural?  lol.  that's a worse solution.  

 

To retire anywhere you need friends. This is the mistake many , many retirees make. Move to a nice place but with no friends. Eventually.....

If planning retirement properly one needs to visit the chosen place on vacation for some years before retiring that way you meet people and get a fell for the place before taking the plunge.

 

Never underestimate the need for friends.

 

The sex tourism stuff most expats here just ignore or forget.

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On 2/16/2019 at 1:42 PM, Puchaiyank said:

Retires in Thailand do not know their future...immigration and healthcare prospects could get better once the visa monetary requirements start filling Thai government coffers.  Uncertainty is the monster lurking in the background.

I am interested in learning how the visa monetary requirements fill the government coffers. Please explain. Thanks.

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13 hours ago, madmen said:

erm no. 6% leaving for sure . 76% staying for sure and the balance undecided

 

your in lala land why would half of all expats leave behind their partners, families , investments all because they need to season 800k for another 2 months and then season  a measly 400k for another 7 months. They already have the money lol

 

lets get real those that fiddled the system and there were many telling porkies got caught with their pants down and now of course its Thailand fault. Those losers never had the 800k to start with ! they had there fun in the sun and party is over , time to go home

I never said half of all expats would "leave their partners , families, and investments behind."  Most of those leaving of course are those you call "losers."  Not having 800,000 baht to deposit in a Thai bank, is not a sign of a loser.  The many who do have 800,000 baht to deposit in a Thai bank but will not do so are called intelligent expats.  

 

A large percentage of western expats didn't buy condos nor did they get married so moving on isn't a problem.  Some of the expats who did get married are taking their wives with them, like to the US for instance.  The bottom line is it is a high percentage leaving and more are in the process of planning to make the move.  When immigration tallies up the number of expats living in Thailand at the end of the year, we will know the actual percentage of those who left.

 

No worries though, immigration will get to you too.  It is just a matter of time. 🙂 

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6 hours ago, ChristianBlessing said:

I have complained of nothing at all, randomly or otherwise. The OP's post makes clear the potential difficulties for those wishing to retire in Thailand. I commended him for his clarity, and stated that as a fellow American I made a decision based on many of the same issues he described. I really don't feel the need to elaborate further.

You wrote, "my spouse and I too have decided that there are simply too many hurdles to get over."  That is complaining.  

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You wrote, "my spouse and I too have decided that there are simply too many hurdles to get over."  That is complaining.  
OK. You win.

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You're only 66, could have another good 10 years! If you are not working, dealing with immigration is not a big deal.

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On 2/17/2019 at 5:15 AM, lamyai3 said:

The system is likely to become clearer in the coming months, including for acceptable proofs of income (in which aspect you'd currently qualify, so the 800k route is unnecessary). 

 

Medical insurance is currently not a requirement - like you say if this changes many older people will be forced to leave.

Too many unknowns. The only thing one can guarantee is that it will get more expensive, whilst the medical insurance requirement is unworkable as many would not qualify anyway. Which leaves me with having an alternative back up country to go to.... but which one? Da Phils or Cambodia or Bali? Comments on these countries and their Visa requirements invited.

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5 minutes ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Too many unknowns. The only thing one can guarantee is that it will get more expensive, whilst the medical insurance requirement is unworkable as many would not qualify anyway. Which leaves me with having an alternative back up country to go to.... but which one? Da Phils or Cambodia or Bali? Comments on these countries and their Visa requirements invited.

Indonesia has a lower income requirement and more importantly a permanent residency option for retirees. I also believe they have a national health insurance system that retirees can participate in.

South America has a lot of good options. In Ecuador you can buy a house, have a business, and lots of perks.

The Philippines also offers lots of options. For me I have in-laws there that I get along well with, plus I can enter for a year with my ex (we're still married though) on balikbayan option.

There was talk of making it easier for Americans to retire in Ireland but that fell through, though I hope it will be revived. There are always options. 

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