PM Prayut concerned about alleged distortion of rice bill

[webfact]

PM concerned about alleged distortion of rice bill

 

 

Thailand’s Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha is concerned about alleged distortion of the contents of the upcoming Rice Bill in a way which may cause public misunderstanding. He insists the Bill is intended to protect the benefits of rice farmers, said deputy government spokesman Lt-Gen Veerachon Sukonthapatipark today (Sunday).

The spokesman warned the media to exercise more caution, citing some newspaper headlines, which he claimed were untrue, suggesting that farmers would suffer and might be punished if they are caught in possession of rice seed for cultivation and that the bill would benefit the agro industry.

He also asked people to use their judgment when reading or sharing information on social media, citing a Facebook post about the Rice Bill claiming that a farmer may face a 5-year jail term and/or a fine of up to 500,000 baht if caught possessing rice seed.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pm-concerned-about-alleged-distortion-of-rice-bill/

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-02-18

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He also asked people to use their judgment when reading or sharing information on social media,

should take his own advice; think before talk

[RichardColeman]

wonder if the bill will be before the election or after, hoping he can get farmers votes before screwing them

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He insists the Bill is intended to protect the benefits of rice farmers

There is only two groups in Thailand the junta is interested in protecting and the rice farmers is not one of them. They are interested only in protecting their 1% filthy rich friends and themselves. The military is effectively the security of their wealth.

The rest of the population can suck it up and do as they are told and the disadvantaged can be grateful for the 500 baht they are given.

[colinneil]

Must be an election coming up, Prayut concerned for rice farmers.

[fisherd3]

I wonder how much farmland 'farmers' actually own nowadays.

[yellowboat]

"However, the Bill has come under heavy criticism by farmer associations, millers and a Thai rice expert from the Thailand Development Research Institute, claiming that it will benefit agro giants at the expense of rice farmers.
Lt-Gen Veerachon said “The Bill will help protect farmers in the long run so they will not be taken advantage of by millers who will suppress the price of their product, claiming that their grains are of substandard quality.”"

 

The only discussions take place in the media.  Government just rubber stamps laws without debate.  Now the debate takes place as government fails to debate.  

[holy cow cm]

deleted.

[Oziex1]

Oh, that "misunderstanding" AKA the truth. 

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

citing a Facebook post about the Rice Bill claiming that a farmer may face a 5-year jail term and/or a fine of up to 500,000 baht if caught possessing rice seed.

Reading an article on the draft Rice Bill, such a statement appears to be incorrect, meaning Prayut is correct.

• Only certified rice seeds can be distributed to farmers and
• Only rice grown from certified rice seeds can be accepted by rice millers.
• Rice farmers are barred from selecting their own rice varieties or forced into seeking certification.
• Offenders (I interpret as distributors and millers) face a fine of up to Bt100,000 and/or one year in jail.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30364155

Where a farmer eats one's own rice grown from uncertified seed, who cares? The idea is to keep uncertified rice out of commercial circulation and that seems fair.

There is a Rice Commission with the PM as Chairman who can provide education and certification advice to rice farmers who may want to or have developed an uncertified rice seed intended for commercialization.

But a fallacy is

6 hours ago, webfact said:

people to use their judgment when reading or sharing information on social media

wherein the Prayut government has been deciding the degree of judgement that people must use when reading or sharing information on social media.

[monkfish]

Long as there's no corruption all should be good.
As to fake news on someone' Facebook page it's social media for crying out loud read it then if your concerned check the facts.

[robblok]

2 hours ago, yellowboat said:

"However, the Bill has come under heavy criticism by farmer associations, millers and a Thai rice expert from the Thailand Development Research Institute, claiming that it will benefit agro giants at the expense of rice farmers.
Lt-Gen Veerachon said “The Bill will help protect farmers in the long run so they will not be taken advantage of by millers who will suppress the price of their product, claiming that their grains are of substandard quality.”"

 

The only discussions take place in the media.  Government just rubber stamps laws without debate.  Now the debate takes place as government fails to debate.  

Yes that is a bit of a problem no discussion on new laws, no involvement of the people. However i seen the same happen with the democratic governments. They decide something, the opposition is against it but they push it through anyway (quite a few examples there won't bore you with it)

 

It seems those in power never want to talk with those actually affected by new laws. That is something that should really change in Thailand. However it won't because those with more power are always right.

[Aussie999]

27 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Reading an article on the draft Rice Bill, such a statement appears to be incorrect, meaning Prayut is correct.

• Only certified rice seeds can be distributed to farmers and
• Only rice grown from certified rice seeds can be accepted by rice millers.
• Rice farmers are barred from selecting their own rice varieties or forced into seeking certification.
• Offenders (I interpret as distributors and millers) face a fine of up to Bt100,000 and/or one year in jail.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30364155

Where a farmer eats one's own rice grown from uncertified seed, who cares? The idea is to keep uncertified rice out of commercial circulation and that seems fair.

There is a Rice Commission with the PM as Chairman who can provide education and certification advice to rice farmers who may want to or have developed an uncertified rice seed intended for commercialization.

But a fallacy is

wherein the Prayut government has been deciding the degree of judgement that people must use when reading or sharing information on social media.

So you say it is "fair" to force poor farmers to BUY certified rice... wow I see someone will benefit from it, and it ain't the farmer, seems to me the country's rice yield has done ok so far.

[Chrisswe]

4 hours ago, Cadbury said:

There is only two groups in Thailand the junta is interested in protecting and the rice farmers is not one of them. They are interested only in protecting their 1% filthy rich friends and themselves. The military is effectively the security of their wealth.

The rest of the population can suck it up and do as they are told and the disadvantaged can be grateful for the 500 baht they are given.

400 bht !!!!!

[monkfish]

43 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Reading an article on the draft Rice Bill, such a statement appears to be incorrect, meaning Prayut is correct.

• Only certified rice seeds can be distributed to farmers and
• Only rice grown from certified rice seeds can be accepted by rice millers.
• Rice farmers are barred from selecting their own rice varieties or forced into seeking certification.
• Offenders (I interpret as distributors and millers) face a fine of up to Bt100,000 and/or one year in jail.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30364155

Where a farmer eats one's own rice grown from uncertified seed, who cares? The idea is to keep uncertified rice out of commercial circulation and that seems fair.

There is a Rice Commission with the PM as Chairman who can provide education and certification advice to rice farmers who may want to or have developed an uncertified rice seed intended for commercialization.

But a fallacy is

wherein the Prayut government has been deciding the degree of judgement that people must use when reading or sharing information on social media.

Yea the article talks about Farmers and not Millers.
In a way thank goodness for Facebook otherwise no one would have ever known.
I think the Farmers concerns are justified.
Let farmers choose their own rice because they know the land better than any Civil Servant.

[Tonyt00]

ืรแาฟฟก

[pornprong]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Yes that is a bit of a problem no discussion on new laws, no involvement of the people. However i seen the same happen with the democratic governments. They decide something, the opposition is against it but they push it through anyway (quite a few examples there won't bore you with it)

 

It seems those in power never want to talk with those actually affected by new laws. That is something that should really change in Thailand. However it won't because those with more power are always right.

Here you go again, always comparing elected governments with the unelected Junta currently running Thailand as if they are two peas from the same pod.

Elected governments are accountable to the people, this is what forces governments into compromising and negotiating.

Juntas neither compromise nor negotiate because they are accountable to no one.

 

Look what happened in democratic Canada in 1993 after the conservative government introduced a GST against the people's will.

The Progressive Conservatives went from 154 seats to just 2 in one foul swoop.

Can you see the same thing happening to Prayuth and your beloved Junta under the current Thai system?

 

Your tactic of constantly claiming elected politicians are just as bad as unelected usurpers is fooling no one.

But, but, but Thaksin whilst always overlooking the very real culpability of Prayuth an Co.

Apples are not oranges.

You prefer right wing, neo liberal, semi fascist unelected d******** - man up and own it.

[robblok]

12 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Here you go again, always comparing elected governments with the unelected Junta currently running Thailand as if they are two peas from the same pod.

Elected governments are accountable to the people, this is what forces governments into compromising and negotiating.

Juntas neither compromise nor negotiate because they are accountable to no one.

 

Look what happened in democratic Canada in 1993 after the conservative government introduced a GST against the people's will.

The Progressive Conservatives went from 154 seats to just 2 in one foul swoop.

Can you see the same thing happening to Prayuth and your beloved Junta under the current Thai system?

 

Your tactic of constantly claiming elected politicians are just as bad as unelected usurpers is fooling no one.

But, but, but Thaksin whilst always overlooking the very real culpability of Prayuth an Co.

Apples are not oranges.

You prefer right wing, neo liberal, semi fascist unelected d******** - man up and own it.

Not a tactic, they are as bad. You just hide for that fact. 

 

They are all in it for themselves, the sooner you realise this the better it is for you.

 

Elected officials are marginally better as they can be easier deposed of, but that is their only claim to fame. If you havent witnessed the abuse of law by elected officials you must have had your eyes closed for the time you lived in Thailand.

 

I have often said I support this election and am against the junta. That does not mean I am blind and should support the reds or yellows. I only support those who are good and I don't care who they are. So far the only one who comes close but has yet to prove himself is Thanathorn.