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Tourist Police taking the fun out of Koh Phangan

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18 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In Siam Reap the hotel I stayed at had a 24/7 pool bar serving beer for 50c a pint.

Half the tables had joints, grinders, and bags of weed on open display with everyone partaking.

 

Didn't see any police the entire time I was there.

They know how to make tourists welcome!

 

And yes I did have beer for breakfast, the next cheapest drink was a pot of tea for $1, which wasn't bad value as you could get 4 cups from it.

I like the sound of your hotel? Love to know where you stayed at in SR!

 

Thailand's drinking laws are draconian and yet another reason I would prefer to take my holidays elsewhere. Despite the advantage of speaking reasonable Thai, I no longer enjoy staying in Thailand.

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Yet they allow parties to go on all night long . It was only two days ago I had a beer with my meal at 3 in the afternoon. I should imagine today being a holiday that no alcohol will be permitted unless you have some in your rented room or house.

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Tourism is a business and businesses go where the money is. If Thai merchants see Chinese tourists as a money stream, they will welcome them. Some of the cruelist people I have ever seen are the people who con tourists in NYC and often there are Asian victims - imposing oneself on a tourist to carry their luggage and demanding a tip, intimidating panhandlers, people who fake accidents, and it goes on. The only limit to the scams is the perpetrators' imagination.  The police receive complaints and become overzealous. The pressure is on police if their area is getting a lot of negative publicity related to crime. 

 

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1 hour ago, baansgr said:

In the UK the original concept  was to stop people being drunk during WW1 hindering the war effort. Research  showed that 24 hour opening  actually cuts down on alcoholism.  Remember Friday and Saturday  nights necking as many pints before last orders. Contrary to the OP stating it was to do with schools,  the excise department introduced these hours on the recommendation from the health authority. It seems strange as most countries move forward,  Thailand being a world holiday destination moving backwards with sale restrictions. School areas and petrol service stations laws are obviously good and a move in the right direction but beach and entertainment areas it's a farce. 

'Research' shows that people have cut down on the booze, eh? British cities resemble war zones these days - there are drunks everywhere. Quite often you'll find that 'research' that supports business is funded by people with vested interests, with connections to the industry. 

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So to sum up the OP - Thai police should disregard the laws just because there are tourists around? Alcohol laws are enforced against tourists in all manner of countries - just because neighbouring countries don't do it, or it isn't done in some parts of the country doesn't mean the police are "hassling" business owners by deciding to enforce it. Perhaps the Police have had pressure put on them by the local governor to do something about flagrant breaches of the law and have no other choice? 

 

I love my beer as much as the next guy, but if your decision on whether to holiday at a spot was dependent on whether you could get a beer between 2 and 5 in a restaurant, you're probably a pretty fickle tourist

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20 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I think you mean England, who can't handle their drink.

Same for Scotland who additionally used to close at ten. And all day Sunday.

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27 minutes ago, SammyT said:

So to sum up the OP - Thai police should disregard the laws just because there are tourists around? Alcohol laws are enforced against tourists in all manner of countries - just because neighbouring countries don't do it, or it isn't done in some parts of the country doesn't mean the police are "hassling" business owners by deciding to enforce it. Perhaps the Police have had pressure put on them by the local governor to do something about flagrant breaches of the law and have no other choice? 

 

I love my beer as much as the next guy, but if your decision on whether to holiday at a spot was dependent on whether you could get a beer between 2 and 5 in a restaurant, you're probably a pretty fickle tourist

Thai police have been disregarding this law ever since it was introduced. Lately there have been isolated instances of it being enforced. Perhaps we will find out why.

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21 hours ago, dbrenn said:

Before Tony Blair, Britain used to close pubs in the afternoon. Hardly a new concept. 

In my country too (next door neighbour)..we called it the "Holy Hour"...and 3 hours on a Sunday.

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14 hours ago, KneeDeep said:

 

I was there too. Though I stayed at Charlie's Huts on Samui and took a boat back and forth.

Not sure about the one hundred figure.

Yeah, maybe a bit more with the boats coming from Samui.

I'd love to go back, by probably a bit depressingng seeing the change.

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21 hours ago, robblok said:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but the no alcohol rule is NOT just for non tourist shops

Isn't he saying that it is tourist shops restaurants that have been targeted?

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6 minutes ago, rott said:

Thai police have been disregarding this law ever since it was introduced. Lately there have been isolated instances of it being enforced. Perhaps we will find out why.

Yes, I can not say that I ever have been refused a beer in the non-alcohol hours (aside from shops) in both Samui and KP. must be very isolated instances. 

 

As a side note, I see there is a discussion about making Songkran booze free this year. I find it a complete waste of government resources to discuss all these changes to the law to avoid traffic accident fatalities. It is all a wasted effort if there is zero enforcement of the existing laws. Pointless to discuss if the appropriate speed is 45 or 55 when everybody drives at 80 unpunished without ever a check around. Same goes for booze free Songkran, if you drive over the limit you are in violation anyway...

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18 hours ago, dbrenn said:

Spoken as if you've never had to put up with drunken Scottish, Welsh and Irish. England makes up the large majority of Britain anyway, and the point I'm making stands: afternoon pub closing is nothing new.

A couple of days ago I was watching a documentary about a particular person and the American doing the commentary said .............he came from a small town in Scotland which is part of England. I wondered if the other 'part of England ' was Wales.

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1 hour ago, SammyT said:

So to sum up the OP - Thai police should disregard the laws just because there are tourists around? Alcohol laws are enforced against tourists in all manner of countries - just because neighbouring countries don't do it, or it isn't done in some parts of the country doesn't mean the police are "hassling" business owners by deciding to enforce it. Perhaps the Police have had pressure put on them by the local governor to do something about flagrant breaches of the law and have no other choice? 

 

I love my beer as much as the next guy, but if your decision on whether to holiday at a spot was dependent on whether you could get a beer between 2 and 5 in a restaurant, you're probably a pretty fickle tourist

or an alcoholic

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