Popular Post Chicago Bull Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Is a phrase I hear regularly from many young Thais (mostly between the ages of 20 & 40). My questions is, what are these people so proud about? It seems to me to be a kind of forced statement when they say it, particularly after a few drinks, and none of them seem to be able to back it up with any substantial evidence.. Is this something that is drummed into the Thai psyche from birth? That they must be proud of their country, even though they haven't really achieved an awful lot? I can count on one hand the number of Thai inventions, scientific or otherwise, that have benefited humanity as a whole. In fact, one hand seems to be too much, they have invented nothing, everything here is just copied from somebody else. Are they just plain lazy or is it a lack of education? Are they proud of being ruled by the military? Is it the wealth gap between the rich and poor? The pollution in the cities? I'm struggling to find what it is these young Thais are so proud of with regards to their country. Maybe someone here can help. Edited February 18, 2019 by Chicago Bull 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samsensam Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member. suggest this topic is closed. 11 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KiChakayan Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 Pattaya, Patpong, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, the hallmarks of Thai culture. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, samsensam said: just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member. It could probably be deranged/deflected to bashing another country 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 yes they invented red bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Bull Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, samsensam said: just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member. suggest this topic is closed. I'm sorry if you think I am bashing Thailand but I am not. This is a point that arose when I attended a dinner over the weekend with a team of young Thai girls, when one of them all of a sudden stood up and exclaimed that she loved her country so much, before raising her glass to cheers with the entire table.. It just got me thinking, what does she love? This isn't an isolated incident, it has happened many times before in a similar setting. Edited February 18, 2019 by Chicago Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said: I'm struggling to find what it is these young Thais are so proud of with regards to their country. They will usually answer such questions with aggression, best not to test primitive people too much. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: yes they invented red bull I am sure they would claim the "Bum gun" also Hang on a minute wasn't Red bull invented by an Austrian bloke , so maybe only the Bum gun! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, poohy said: I am sure they would claim the "Bum gun" also Hang on a minute wasn't Red bull invented by an Austrian bloke , so maybe only the Bum gun! no the so called bum gun was in vented in France and later in Italy in the 16 or 17 hundreds and red bull actually was invented in Thailand with the backing of a Swiss guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said: I'm sorry if you think I am bashing Thailand but I am not. This is a point that arose when I attended a dinner over the weekend with a team of young Thai girls, when one of them all of a sudden stood up and exclaimed that she loved her country so much, before raising her glass to cheers with the entire table.. It just got me thinking, what does she love? This isn't an isolated incident, it has happened many times before in a similar setting. I you had any sense yourself you would have asked her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Bull Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 When this girl said what she said, I immediately (internally) tried to find some redeeming qualities about Thailand so I could agree with her - but I found myself struggling. At the moment there seems to be nothing here that resembles the word pride. Everything points to the contrary. I hope that in the future I myself can become proud of Thailand too, but I wont hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pgrahmm Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old.... They've never been conquered (with an asterisk)..... They're buoyed by the Buddhist religion..... They're an independent people that have a fierce pride in their own..... They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society.... They appreciate the smaller things life brings without over thinking the negatives....They are not materialists - avoiding that trap.....As a society they value their heritage but don't take things over seriously..... We can't apply our western mores & logic to them - and that's a good thing..... The OP seems to be from the US which is a largely culture-less society due to many factors, of which one is it's relative youth country wise..... I, for one, appreciate Thailand and it's people & culture.... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago Bull said: I immediately (internally) tried to find some redeeming qualities about Thailand so I could agree with her They provide prostitutes for the entire world. I certainly appreciate that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chicago Bull Posted February 18, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, pgrahmm said: They've never been conquered (with an asterisk)..... Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina? Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pgrahmm said: They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old.... Most of their traditions were created in the early 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram. Edited February 18, 2019 by BritManToo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Bull Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Most of their traditions were invented in 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram. This is true. Well pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, pgrahmm said: They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old.... They've never been conquered (with an asterisk)..... They're buoyed by the Buddhist religion..... They're an independent people that have a fierce pride in their own..... They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society.... They appreciate the smaller things life brings without over thinking the negatives....They are not materialists - avoiding that trap.....As a society they value their heritage but don't take things over seriously..... We can't apply our western mores & logic to them - and that's a good thing..... The OP seems to be from the US which is a largely culture-less society due to many factors, of which one is it's relative youth country wise..... I, for one, appreciate Thailand and it's people & culture.... Blooming heck all of the above , although these are mostly intangibles but we can add RedBull (with the backing of a swiss guy) They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society.... this applies to certain areas of Dudley, best not leave your car parked there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: no the so called bum gun was in vented in France and later in Italy in the 16 or 17 hundreds and red bull actually was invented in Thailand with the backing of a Swiss guy Austrian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel - of any nationality! Just look at Trumpism and Brexit. [emoji35]Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago Bull said: Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina? Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations. Might as toss in a few other counties & alliances (with Thailand) in there which, in effect, created a standoff allowing the country to remain free.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: yes they invented red bull I think you will find that it was the Japanese. Rebadged as Kraeting Daeng then translated buy the Austrian to Red Bull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said: Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina? Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations. asterisks indeed!* The Burmese and Lao had few results back in the days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 am trying to help.... always thought they invented the katoeys / ladyboys and suckers, but could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: yes they invented red bull and carabao & pad thai (or something like that)...but we are helping marketing here555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, VocalNeal said: I think you will find that it was the Japanese. Rebadged as Kraeting Daeng then translated buy the Austrian to Red Bull. AARGH No! conflicting information Bum Gun NO Null points the big one is So did they invent Red Bull????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Most of their traditions were created in the early 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram. Anybody who wants to know #howcomeitsthewayitis needs to read his entry in Wikipedia as a starting point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: yes they invented red bull they invented a way to destroy their tourism industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said: Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina? Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations. They are proud of the negotiating skills of their former king, who was instrumental in this decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipflipper Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 From birth to the grave Thais are thought that their country is the best and places like Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are beneath them. They cannot understand nor will they ever accept the fact that in this Asean Community they are now a part off Thailand comes off fourth best. With their inability to understand that Thailand is a third world country is it any wonder why they treat Expats the way they do?? We are white skin devils.Sent from my CMR-AL19 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, lipflipper said: From birth to the grave Thais are thought that their country is the best and places like Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are beneath them. They cannot understand nor will they ever accept the fact that in this Asean Community they are now a part off Thailand comes off fourth best. With their inability to understand that Thailand is a third world country is it any wonder why they treat Expats the way they do?? We are white skin devils. Sent from my CMR-AL19 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Thailand is a developing country. I have been treated very well, as an expat over the last 3 decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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