webfact Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Spanish warship ordered ships to leave British waters near Gibraltar FILE PHOTO: A cloud partially covers the tip of the Rock of the British territory of Gibraltar at sunrise from La Atunara port in southern Spain August 18, 2013. REUTERS/Jon Nazca/File Photo LONDON (Reuters) - A Spanish warship tried to order commercial shipping to leave anchorages in British waters near Gibraltar but was challenged by the British navy and sailed away, Gibraltar said. The Spanish ship tried to order ships to leave their anchorages on the eastern side of the Rock but the ships stayed in position. The British navy challenged the Spanish warship which then sailed slowly along the coast with its weapons uncovered and manned, Gibraltar said. "There is only nuisance value to these foolish games being played by those who don't accept unimpeachable British sovereignty over the waters around Gibraltar," a spokesman for Gibraltar said. (Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Kate Holton) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 What happens when Spain remains a member of the EU and the UK leaves? Expect more of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, webfact said: "There is only nuisance value to these foolish games being played by those who don't accept unimpeachable British sovereignty over the waters around Gibraltar," a spokesman for Gibraltar said. The Brit's need to play a game of bowls in view of the Spanish just to wind 'em up abit more .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said: What happens when Spain remains a member of the EU and the UK leaves? Expect more of this... The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 It is a deflection from the political turmoil that exists in Spain right now, maybe they would be better sorting out their own affairs, it is clear Gibraltar wants to remain as part of the UK until they determine otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I agree Gibraltar, although it is an oddity, should determine its own fate and that so far they voted to stay with the UK. Small detail however: they also voted almost unanimously against Brexit. Let's see what the spokesman has to say about nuisances when the Brexit dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar There is no EU military. EU is an economic and political Union, exclusive of military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 hours ago, jerojero said: 9 hours ago, smedly said: The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar There is no EU military. EU is an economic and political Union, exclusive of military. Well obviously your not keeping up with the news. This is just one of many contentious plans, being drawn up by those unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, nontabury said: Well obviously your not keeping up with the news. This is just one of many contentious plans, being drawn up by those unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels. Where exactly are bureaucrats elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Lovely photograph at top of Gibraltar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Where exactly are bureaucrats elected? Some people really wish to se3 the EU as a dictatorship. Never mind that they vote for their representatives in the EU Parliament, that their national parliament is represented in the EU council and that as on a national level the people don't get to vote on minister, bureaucrats etc. Or that despite talks of further army integration or an EU army, such stuff won't pass unless the members give their thumbs up. The UK have it's thumbs up in approximately 95% of cases but Brussels is clearly evil. Sovereignty, boss over our closed borders!! 555 As for the ship, Spain's navy being silly. Members do silly things. But then we resort to debates, diplomacy etc to sort things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 hours ago, smedly said: The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar You missed out two words.......TRY TO. The EU military will TRY TO invade the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Justgrazing said: The Brit's need to play a game of bowls in view of the Spanish just to wind 'em up abit more .. A little known fact, search English Armada which was defeated by the Spanish in Spain shortly after the Spanish attempt at the UK, history written by the victors eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie999 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 hours ago, jerojero said: 14 hours ago, smedly said: The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar There is no EU military. EU is an economic and political Union, exclusive of military. Ever heard of an alliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just as an interesting aside, the French police heavy vehicles sent to counter the yellow vests bore the EU symbol rather than the French flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 10 hours ago, jerojero said: 15 hours ago, smedly said: The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar There is no EU military. EU is an economic and political Union, exclusive of military. It is fair to say however that there are proposals, (and some enthusiasm in some influential circles) to create a EU military as one of the next steps towards creating an "ever closer union". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 15 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: What happens when Spain remains a member of the EU and the UK leaves? Expect more of this... Well Gibraltar has been a British Territory since 1713 when it was ceded in perpetuity by the Treaty of Utrecht. Spain joined the EU in 1986. I suppose things will carry on in much the same way as they did In those 273 years. The Spanish military making such comic opera "threatening" moves is not exactly new, both during those 273 years and during British and Spanish membership of the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Giving up Gibraltar will be the price of a "deal" with the EUSSR. Treason would betray them in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Donutz said: As for the ship, Spain's navy being silly. Members do silly things. But then we resort to debates, diplomacy etc to sort things out. Too much talking and not enough shooting these days IMHO. War in Europe is coming, what the sides will be is anyone's guess. Civil unrest in ......... Greece and Italy doesn't seem to be reported at all, but it must be happening. Spain has gone very quiet, they can't have arrested all the Catalans. France we hear about, but the media plays it down, despite serious rioting every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 8 hours ago, nontabury said: Well obviously your not keeping up with the news. This is just one of many contentious plans, being drawn up by those unelected Bureaucrats in Brussels. Her hand gestures remind of another leader of that country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Spanish sailors acting like Barbary Apes!! Bring back Sir Francis Drake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 19 hours ago, webfact said: Spanish warship ordered ships to leave British waters near Gibraltar That may be a temporary situation: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/24/brexit-may-gives-way-over-gibraltar-after-spains-veto-threat On the eve of Sunday’s special Brexit summit, the British ambassador to the EU, Sir Tim Barrow, wrote to concede that Gibraltar would not necessarily be covered by a future trade deal with the EU. The development gives Spain a veto over Gibraltar benefiting from a future trade and security agreement between Brussels and the British government. The Spanish leader, Pedro Sánchez, reacted immediately, claiming the UK would now have to open talks on “joint sovereignty” of Gibraltar, over which Spain has had a claim since the military dictatorship of Francisco Franco. Post-Brexit Gibraltar border could become pawn between UK and Spain https://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/post-brexit-gibraltar-border-could-become-pawn-between-uk-and-spain-says-mep-girling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 20 hours ago, smedly said: The EU military will invade the UK - Including Germany Italy France Hungry Bulgaria and Spain Sound familiar No. The UK has just installed Huawei 5G. If anything happens the Chinese will turn on the oppressors. History tells us the UK was always a part of the ancient Chinese empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, car720 said: No. The UK has just installed Huawei 5G. If anything happens the Chinese will turn on the oppressors. History tells us the UK was always a part of the ancient Chinese empire. The Chinese will turn the UK into the Hong Kong of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Glad to see the RN sent a launch and an inflatable dinghy to shoo off the dastardly Diegos. Didn't see any rubber ducks though, and none of the British matelots cried when their iPhones were taken away. Rule Britannia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 20 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: What happens when Spain remains a member of the EU and the UK leaves? Expect more of this... Nothing. Spain might hope stirring this pot will distract it's people from Catalonia independence; or increase nationalism. Doubtful - apart from among the fascists. Other EU nations won't be interested and the EU bureaucrats won't. Spain couldn't even get the former Catalan leader extradited from within the EU. The EU and member states won't condone a member flaunting international law. At some point the UK will tire of this childish behavior and admonish suitable punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Aussie999 said: Ever heard of an alliance The only military alliances that contain any of the countries listed also contain the UK and these alliances are in not affected by Brexit. Spain cannot invade the UK without a UN Security Council Resolution being passed which could not be passed without the consent of the UK. Spain cannot invade the UK without NATO being automatically obliged to invoke Article 5 forcing all NATO members to offer military support to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, JAG said: It is fair to say however that there are proposals, (and some enthusiasm in some influential circles) to create a EU military as one of the next steps towards creating an "ever closer union". Indeed. When the Brexit referendum result was announced, a German lady politician, I think FM at the time, applauded saying she was glad the British and their veto would be gone and that the EU could now carry on with projects like the establishment of a EU Military under EU command and loyal to the EU. Necessary as the EU moves to closer federalism and to ensure people do as their told. As another German politician announced at the time "elections can't be allowed to change things"! A more closely federalist EU is likely to be more totalitarian in outlook, more regulated socially and more controlled by politicians and bureaucrats than the people. The electorate will be more remote from influencing decisions. People in EU member states have been disarmed, with more and more stringent regulations. That hasn't happened by chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Burma Bill said: Spanish sailors acting like Barbary Apes!! Bring back Sir Francis Drake!! Yeah, what we really need is a chancer who got one lucky break and then caused the needless deaths of tens of thousands of sailors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabarin Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Who cares? Global warming will take care of all those coast places, little islands and eventually UK anyway right? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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