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BANGKOK 18 March 2019 20:48
Gecko123

How is the TM-30 housemaster reporting requirement affecting you?

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22 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I currently have a receipt showing that the housemaster has reported my residence where I live, so for the time being I am reasonably confident that I am in compliance with the TM-30 regulation.

 

Isn't the onus entirely on the head of household to do the reporting?  If they fail to do it, it's on them.  I don't even know if my Father in law has done this.

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Seems some provinces don't enforce this and some do. Unfortunately, my home province immigration enforce it rigorously.

As I have leased my land and house, I usually fill out a TM28 rather than the TM30. This has been accepted every time.

Personally, I'd rather do this than have to wear the bracelet that was mooted by immigration awhile back.

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Boy, sounds like a pain.

I live in Pattaya and for several years travel all the time in and out of the country and within.

Never done anything and never been asked anything by TI when I go there for business.

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Yes, it seems like TI consider every expat a sex offender/criminal unless proven otherwise. The otherwise part is the problem - you can’t prove that you aren’t something you’re not (did I get that right? Lol)


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1.  other threads on this indicate that under the law, a renter is effectively the house-master, so you "can" self-report.

 

2.  still other threads explain the process for reporting by mail.  send in day after return, get receipt via self-addressed envelope.

 

 

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I went home to Oz for Xmas and while at Jomtien Immigration getting my re-entry permit I asked if I would need to lodge a new TM30 on my return (or at least my wife) I was told that because I am here on a Retirement Extension I did not need to, but I guess I might find out the hard way when I do my renewal next month.

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3 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

1.  other threads on this indicate that under the law, a renter is effectively the house-master, so you "can" self-report.

 

2.  still other threads explain the process for reporting by mail.  send in day after return, get receipt via self-addressed envelope.

 

 

I always do number 1 above as I find the real housemaster refuses to follow their regulations. Guess who had to pay the 1600 baht fine?

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"How is the TM-30 housemaster reporting requirement affecting you?"

It's affecting me by having to waste my time to go to Jomtien Immigration to do a TM30 telling them I'm staying at the same address after flying back into the country. Wastes a few hours of my time to go there and wait around. Before in BKK I never had to do this.

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Phuket immigration is very strict on this re-registering of address, but, they have made it so much easier.

Go to the drive through with only your passport, no TM30, or TM28 necessary, though, must have the address registry slip that is stapled into your passport. Takes about three minutes. Though, if you address has changed, then you need to go into the office with a new TM form.

Without a current registration of address, they will not process a retirement extension until it has been done. 

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54 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

FIRST JOE WHERE ARE YOU???

 

I have lived here for 9 years and the only change that I report is when I move to a new residence.

 

I also like most here travel although not out of the country on a regular basis and stay in hotels and such.  I also traveled outside the country to check out the land of OZZ sorry not my brand of beer too expensive.

 

Anyway, I have never ever made a report or had the owner do a report for any of my trips.  Why should I still reside at that location as my permanent location and base?  The hotels that I stay in report that I am there.  

Now I live in Pathum Thani and immigration here have brains that they use.  That may be the difference.

 

My question is why are you telling the owner that you are going away.  If he or she does not know that you have left the house they have no need to report it.

 

If you do not pay rent for the time that you are away then I can understand but really are we starting to micromanage our fears and get paranoid.

You aren't telling the owner that you are going away.  The owner is confirming that you still live there after you return.

 

How does immigration know that you have even gone anywhere in the first place? Travel outside the country, of course, shows up in your passport with exit and entry stamps and this activity is undoubtedly on immigration's computers as well.

 

Travel within the country can trigger a report to immigration as well. For example, a stay in a hotel will commonly trigger a report to immigration. If the "housemaster" doesn't re-report that you are still staying at your residence after you return home, they might be fined, and you might be fined or have problems with your visa as well.

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