webfact Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Teenager who joined IS group in Syria to lose UK citizenship FILE PHOTO: Renu Begum, sister of teenage British girl Shamima Begum, holds a photo of her sister as she makes an appeal for her to return home at Scotland Yard, in London, Britain February 22, 2015. REUTERS/Laura Lean/Pool LONDON (Reuters) - Shamima Begum, a teenager who left London when she was aged 15 to join Islamic State in Syria, has had her British citizenship revoked, according to a letter sent to her family published by ITV News on Tuesday. Begum, who gave birth to a son at the weekend, was discovered in a refugee camp in Syria by a London Times journalist earlier this month. Now aged 19, she has told reporters she wants to return to Britain. The letter addressed to Begum's mother said: "Please find enclosed papers that relate to a decision taken by the Home Secretary, to deprive your daughter, Shamima Begum, of her British citizenship. "In light of the circumstances of your daughter, the notice of the Home Secretary's decision has been served of file today (19th February), and the order removing her British citizenship has subsequently been made." Britain's Home Secretary Sajid Javid has said he would "not hesitate" to prevent the return to Britain of anyone who has supported terrorist organisations aboard. Mohammed T Akunjee, a lawyer representing Begum's family, said on Twitter the family was "very disappointed" by the move. "We are considering all legal avenues to challenge this decision," he said. Sky News, citing government sources, said Begum could have her citizenship revoked because she was a dual British-Bangladeshi national, Britain's Home Office did not immediately respond to a request to comment. (Reporting by Paul Sandle; Editing by Marguerita Choy) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-02-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Although anti racist, I do feel that anyone who turns their back on a country to aid terrorists that openly plot the downfall of, attack, kill, and maim, the innocent citizens of that country, can't be surprised when that country revokes their citizenship. She made her bed, now she can lie in it. Som nam na. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 This is an interesting development. I remember when this story first broke the narrative ran that she was born in Bangladesh and at age 3 moved to the UK. Then over the last week the story was that she was born in the UK. Now she has her citizenship revoked because she holds Bangladesh citizenship. So, she was born abroad after all, or?? If only Britain could learn from this sorry saga. It takes more than throwing a passport at somebody to make them a real Brit. Time to overhaul the whole system. The candidate must have lived continuously in the UK legally and paid income taxes for at least 20 years, and must be able to prove a "oneness" with British culture to be eligible for a UK passport. That together with a totally clear criminal record and we would be getting somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Kudos to the UK Govt on this one. She made her bed, now she has to live with the consequence. UK taxpayer money must be spent on worthier cases than this. Glad this has been treated with the contempt it deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1958 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I'm afraid it would be easier to get the sun to shine at midnight in London, than it will be to stop this "ISIS poster girl" and her child from returning to the UK. I served 8 years in the British Royal Navy, at a time when Britain was not ruled by "British Muslims"... Britain, it's heritage, it's culture, it's identity and everything that once made us who we are - is gone, seemingly forever. As crazy as some may see this - I sometimes wish President Donald Trump was the Prime Minister of Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said: This is an interesting development. I remember when this story first broke the narrative ran that she was born in Bangladesh and at age 3 moved to the UK. Then over the last week the story was that she was born in the UK. Now she has her citizenship revoked because she holds Bangladesh citizenship. So, she was born abroad after all, or?? If only Britain could learn from this sorry saga. It takes more than throwing a passport at somebody to make them a real Brit. Time to overhaul the whole system. The candidate must have lived continuously in the UK legally and paid income taxes for at least 20 years, and must be able to prove a "oneness" with British culture to be eligible for a UK passport. That together with a totally clear criminal record and we would be getting somewhere. Unfortunately, the group that carried out the London Tube bombings, were born and raised in the UK and carried British passports. AS with the group that carried out a failed attempt to repeat the atrocity a few months later, all uni students. The answer doesn't lie with preventing Moslems coming to the UK, the answer is to prevent the radicalisation of these youngsters once they are in the UK. Come down hard on the Mosques/madrassas, expel the evil Mullahs preaching hate and most of all curtail social media from allowing their apps to aid the spreading of these evil doctrines to youngsters. Zuckerberg, you are giving aid and succour to the most evil, morally bankrupt, terrorists that the world has ever known. You are a criminal. Spending the rest of your sad life in prison is less than you deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 A good decision by the May government, I wonder that a labour government under Corbyn leadership would have done with this woman that said she was 'ok with beheadings'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1958 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Spidey said: The answer doesn't lie with preventing Moslems coming to the UK, the answer is to prevent the radicalisation of these youngsters once they are in the UK. That would be unnecessary if we did not allow them in, in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Since she apparently also is Bangladeshi, an understandable and imo correct decision. Appeals probably won't amount to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, BB1958 said: That would be unnecessary if we did not allow them in, in the first place As I pointed out, the majority of terrorists, in the UK, were born in the UK, second and sometimes third generation Brits. What do you advocate, deport all Moslems, British or not? Where would you deport them to? They're 100% British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Good and deport the other members of her Bangladeshi family in the UK who supports her terrorist activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, Spidey said: Although anti racist, I do feel that anyone who turns their back on a country to aid terrorists that openly plot the downfall of, attack, kill, and maim, the innocent citizens of that country, can't be surprised when that country revokes their citizenship. She made her bed, now she can lie in it. Som nam na. Given that she does have a second citizenship then yes the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyT Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, BB1958 said: I served 8 years in the British Royal Navy, at a time when Britain was not ruled by "British Muslims"... Britain, it's heritage, it's culture, it's identity and everything that once made us who we are - is gone, seemingly forever. And you've done your part to stop this by moving to Thailand? Ironic you haven't immigration laws of your own country while relying on the immigration laws of another's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1958 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Spidey said: What do you advocate, deport all Moslems, British or not? Where would you deport them to? They're 100% British. I never said anything what you wrote - you are attempting to paint me as the villain. There are intelligent people on this forum that will see right through you - AND whilst you are "attempting to appear "eloquent", you will not succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, BB1958 said: I never said anything what you wrote - you are attempting to paint me as the villain. There are intelligent people on this forum that will see right through you - AND whilst you are "attempting to appear "eloquent", you will not succeed "What I wrote"? Where do you get your scripts from? Morecambe and Wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1958 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, SammyT said: And you've done your part to stop this by moving to Thailand? Ironic you haven't immigration laws of your own country while relying on the immigration laws of another's. Yes, as those that are "British" will understand - we need to populate our Empire - (Yes, yes, yes, I know Thailand was not part of our Empire).. Keeping our "global" presence for the good of the planet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Given that she does have a second citizenship then yes the right move. Given that she had dual nationality, it was the British government's only option. Had she been a 100% British citizen born in the UK, the British government would have been totally unable to legally strip her of her British nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1958 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spidey said: "What I wrote"? Where do you get your scripts from? Morecambe and Wise? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 People who are born in Bangladesh or to Bangladeshi parents are automatically Bangladeshi citizens, so it doesn't matter whether she was born in the UK or not. Bangladesh recognizes dual citizens, so as long as her parents didn't formally renounce their Bangladeshi citizenship, all she has to do is go to a Bangladeshi Embassy or Consulate and apply for a Bangladeshi passport. Of course, if Bangladesh is anything like Thailand, we can expect that her family will have to produce Notarized and Apostilled copies of their and her birth certificates etc...etc...etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 At last the British Government doing something right,there was no way she would be allowed to return to the UK,she chose to join the enemies of all democratic countries,let her rot in a Syrian camp,or she can go to Bangladesh where she would most likely be welcomed,a shit country like that is good enough for her. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Bangladesh. Well, from her point of view, has to be better than where she is now A nice little Islamic country for a nice little Islamic .... A happy ending and sensible decision from the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Good move. Now the British government needs to go back and check whether any of the other Jihadi brides that they have allowed back to the UK also have dual citizenship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Of course the elephant in the room here is the fact that the UK government does not have to now take responsibility for the decision to allow or prosecute this woman as the US has forced the hand of States to either take their citizens back or let them free. But the fact remains that the UK granted her citizenship, and now absolves itself from any responsibility if this person gets released and goes and has more Jihadi babies or aids and abets such efforts herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, keemapoot said: Of course the elephant in the room here is the fact that the UK government does not have to now take responsibility for the decision to allow or prosecute this woman as the US has forced the hand of States to either take their citizens back or let them free. But the fact remains that the UK granted her citizenship, and now absolves itself from any responsibility if this person gets released and goes and has more Jihadi babies or aids and abets such efforts herself. Yes, let her go to Bangladesh and there she can do what she wants , she is an individual person and the UK isnt responsible for her life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 The UK Government made a correct decision. Don't understand what all the blather is about. It's a non issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, sanemax said: Yes, let her go to Bangladesh and there she can do what she wants , she is an individual person and the UK isnt responsible for her life You mean that the UK is shirking its responsibility to stand up and make a decision whether to prosecute or not one of its nasty citizens. Yes, I do understand that, but let's call it what it is. UK government does not want the fallout from that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 The UK is so PC that I doubt this will happen. But if it does, there will be hope, after all. She hates the UK, zero regrets. Stay at that camp, little girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I disagree. They should turn her over to President Assad. Let him deal with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, keemapoot said: You mean that the UK is shirking its responsibility to stand up and make a decision whether to prosecute or not one of its nasty citizens. Yes, I do understand that, but let's call it what it is. UK government does not want the fallout from that decision. No , I dont mean that . The UK has made the decision to revoke her citizenship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Looks like they finally got one thing right in the last 3 years???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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