UK's Hammond says no-deal Brexit would be 'mutual calamity'

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19 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Easy to evolve when you have a tariff-free deal allowing you to export cars from Japan to Europe.  Not so easy for entrepeneurs in Swindon.  We need to be clear that we are taking the Spartan approach to improving the UK economy. 

 

No gain without pain.  Suffering makes you stronger.  Strength through adversity.  Devil take the hindmost.  I'm sure it will be fine in the long run, whatever hardship people might suffer in the short term, and potential strains on our civic society,

 

SC

gain what? oh i forgot 20 minutes quicker to see a doctor because there was a foreigner in the waiting room.When the economy goes in reverse and your glorious govt has to introduce more spending cuts you will be waiting even longer than before.

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39 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

I used to stand in the former stadium of the 3rd Reich in Nürnberg. The size and power of this course is impressive. It is easy to imagine how the atmosphere must have been there when 100,000 People with fire torches swore on the swastika flag.
Thankfully, Brexit does not have that, but the mass mechanism is the same.

UK pubs are the breeding ground for brexiteers,mechanism is the same as nuremburg

[tomacht8]

39 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

Aspirations. We all need aspirations.  Can we rename Wembley "Brexit Stadium"?  There are a lot of stadia around the country that are only used at the weekend.  Perhaps we could hold public forum meetings to explain the benefits of Brexit, and develop consensus and agreement, and some healthy formation marching and chanting to get us all on the same page.  Unity and Power.  Strength through Joy.

Reichsparteitagsgelände was the area in the southeast of Nuremberg called on the 1933-1938 Nazi Party Rallies NSDAP took place. The overall design for the design of the site came in the basic concept of Albert Speer and in detail by Walter Brugmann, who also led the implementation planning. It covers a total area of over 16.5 km².

In order to create a venue for the planned National Socialist fighting games, Albert Speer designed the German stadium. With a base of 540 × 445 and a height of 82 meters, it was planned as "the largest stadium in the world".
It should provide space for over 405,000 viewers.
By comparison, the world's largest stadium in Prague today has 250,000 seats.

Forget your Aspirations.
It is better to work peacefully with your neighbors together and create common win / win situations.

 

Or ur Posting is satirical?

[Loiner]

it started with immigration and how many times do we hear immigration mentioned now?  it barely gets a mention,vast majority of leave voters didnt give a hoot about trade/jobs/economy/inflation/the pound/growth.

As the electorate and you will still get the same issues. The MSM does not have a long attention span, so has moved on to its favourite sources. Politicians, their sound bites, and their antics. The whole backstop saga was also a welcome distraction for them, from the real wrongs of Theresa’s surrender document. Maybe those wrongs are being resolved behind closed doors and not the media spotlight. We don’t know if they are being ironed out or glossed over. With Remainers at the talks it’s probably the latter.


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29 minutes ago, Loiner said:

As the electorate and you will still get the same issues. The MSM does not have a long attention span, so has moved on to its favourite sources. Politicians, their sound bites, and their antics. The whole backstop saga was also a welcome distraction for them, from the real wrongs of Theresa’s surrender document. Maybe those wrongs are being resolved behind closed doors and not the media spotlight. We don’t know if they are being ironed out or glossed over. With Remainers at the talks it’s probably the latter.


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"The whole backstop saga was also a welcome distraction for them, from the real wrongs of Theresa’s surrender document. Maybe those wrongs are being resolved behind closed doors and not the media spotlight. We don’t know if they are being ironed out or glossed over. With Remainers at the talks it’s probably the latter."

 

Probably???  Of course it's the latter!! ????
 

[roger buttmore]

It's sad that the UK doesn't currently have a prime minister (or anyone else remotely close by) with the cajones to grab the bull by the balls and get the job done without things dragging on to the last minute. What on earth have they all been doing for the past two and a half years while the country's been plunging southward. Too much posturing and childish delaying tactics and general awkwardness which is causing tidal waves way beyond the boundaries of The British Isles and costing all manner of EU citizens and residents dearly.

 

Margaret Thatcher would've had this sorted out by now, just dotting a few i's and crossing a few t's. We'd essentially just be waiting for hand-over day.

[tebee]

13 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Brexit is now an ideology similar to Jehovah's Witnesses.
For the functioning of a mass ideology it is necessary that
a. clear stereotypes enemy images exist: foreigners, Polish plumbers who take the work away, the EU with its laws, etc. and
b A common body consists like us English, or we the electorate, or we the People have spoken, Projekt fear, etc.
Then suddenly the "other" 48% are seen as enemies in their own country.
The whole thing will be then, all a Goebbels fueled,  by the media and professional, paid scribblers in the social media.
Done is the cocktail of discord.
Rational arguments like trade/jobs/economy/inflation/the pound/growth, do not come through then.

You can't really blame the brexiters though.

 

They've been radicalized by many years of hate preachers -

 

- in the Sun, Daily Mail, Express and Telegraph

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

You can't really blame the brexiters though.

 

They've been radicalized by many years of hate preachers -

 

- in the Sun, Daily Mail, Express and Telegraph

And what's your excuse........ Twitter? ????????????????

[Lancelot01]

21 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Nothing unless your a Honda worker or one of the company's that supply it or an ex employee with vested interest in the manufacturing town ????

Honda were relocating to Japan anyway and have clearly stated that their decision was not based on the outcome of Brexit.

The falling sales of diesel engined cars that the plant at Swindon produced along with other European manufacturers was the key issue.

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, roger buttmore said:

It's sad that the UK doesn't currently have a prime minister (or anyone else remotely close by) with the cajones to grab the bull by the balls and get the job done without things dragging on to the last minute. What on earth have they all been doing for the past two and a half years while the country's been plunging southward. Too much posturing and childish delaying tactics and general awkwardness which is causing tidal waves way beyond the boundaries of The British Isles and costing all manner of EU citizens and residents dearly.

 

Margaret Thatcher would've had this sorted out by now, just dotting a few i's and crossing a few t's. We'd essentially just be waiting for hand-over day.

ohh, do I disagree with that,

even if this Brexit game has become a real mess

 

UK should be comfortable that Thatcher is not around, and in particular not with a hand on the tiller

 

people like the no no no no lady as no place in large scale multilateral talks

the best she can do is being a destructive force and upsetting parties

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, roger buttmore said:

It's sad that the UK doesn't currently have a prime minister (or anyone else remotely close by) with the cajones to grab the bull by the balls and get the job done without things dragging on to the last minute. What on earth have they all been doing for the past two and a half years while the country's been plunging southward. Too much posturing and childish delaying tactics and general awkwardness which is causing tidal waves way beyond the boundaries of The British Isles and costing all manner of EU citizens and residents dearly.

 

Margaret Thatcher would've had this sorted out by now, just dotting a few i's and crossing a few t's. We'd essentially just be waiting for hand-over day.

i thought your hero boris was going to be the new maggie ????  he ran a mile when he had the chance to be her as did moggers,they knew it was mission impossible,boris is a may supporter these days.times have changed

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5 hours ago, Lancelot01 said:

Honda were relocating to Japan anyway and have clearly stated that their decision was not based on the outcome of Brexit.

The falling sales of diesel engined cars that the plant at Swindon produced along with other European manufacturers was the key issue.

yet they stated less than 1 year ago they were committed to swindon

[bannork]

17 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Reichsparteitagsgelände was the area in the southeast of Nuremberg called on the 1933-1938 Nazi Party Rallies NSDAP took place. The overall design for the design of the site came in the basic concept of Albert Speer and in detail by Walter Brugmann, who also led the implementation planning. It covers a total area of over 16.5 km².

In order to create a venue for the planned National Socialist fighting games, Albert Speer designed the German stadium. With a base of 540 × 445 and a height of 82 meters, it was planned as "the largest stadium in the world".
It should provide space for over 405,000 viewers.
By comparison, the world's largest stadium in Prague today has 250,000 seats.

Forget your Aspirations.
It is better to work peacefully with your neighbors together and create common win / win situations.

 

Or ur Posting is satirical?

You know that last sentence is a rhetorical question.