Ulic Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 14 hours ago, soalbundy said: No, international law will save her. The UK can't make her stateless by law so she will bask under the shadow of the union Jack again. As with Brexit the government has jumped the gun without looking at the facts, they will be forced to reinstate her British nationality. Maybe, but the government doesn't have to issue her a passport or travel documents. Just cancel the one she has if she has one and let her sit and pontificate on her decisions and actions. If she is allowed to return to the UK it will cost the taxpaying public 10's of millions of pounds in round the clock surveillance, social housing, and other welfare benefits. Let her enjoy her time in her new country. Let Assad deport her when he establishes full control. Of course, while she waits as his guest the UK still does not have to issue a passport or travel documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Spidey said: The ultimate right lies with the courts, not the government. Ultimately it will end up with the European Court of Human Rights, who will, undoubtedly find in her favour. However this normally takes years. Was not one of the aims of Brexit was to dump the European Court of Human Rights??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 9 hours ago, simple1 said: Difference being Shamima Begum was born in the UK. Bangladesh claims she has never applied for citizenship and now will not be granted - fair enough! The Home Office argues that she was born a Bangladeshi citizen - there is no need to apply for it. Now, it seems that certain actions can automatically lose one Bangladeshi citizenship - but not while one is under 21! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, Richard W said: The Home Office argues that she was born a Bangladeshi citizen - there is no need to apply for it. Now, it seems that certain actions can automatically lose one Bangladeshi citizenship - but not while one is under 21! IMO that's a play by the Home office. Have to wait and see if she ever gets a Court hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, simple1 said: IMO that's a play by the Home office. Have to wait and see if she ever gets a Court hearing. The Home Office has been losing a string of cases where they've tried to strip ex-Bangladeshis of UK citizenship - G3, E3 and N3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Basil B said: Was not one of the aims of Brexit was to dump the European Court of Human Rights??? With May's deal we remain in the ECHR. With a no deal Brexit we would have to pass legislation to opt out of the ECHR but I haven't heard of any MPs suggesting that we would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 hours ago, SweetStickyRice said: I will hold a barbeque on the roof of my condo in celebration if / when the result of this matter is a positive one. Pork sausages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Spidey said: Yes the Home Secretary has acted like a complete grandstanding knob over this issue. Grandstanding is what they do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Give her a tourist visa to Thailand and a free rental motorbike. She won't last 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Kadilo said: Wondered how long before Dianne Abbott started spouting.......and they wonder why Labour supporters are leaving in their droves. JC beat her to it... Quote Shamima Begum has right to return to UK - Jeremy Corbyn Shamima Begum, who left the UK to join the Islamic State group in Syria aged 15, has a "right to return to Britain", Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has said. Ms Begum has had her UK citizenship revoked by Home Secretary Sajid Javid - a move Mr Corbyn said was "extreme". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47319763 Now would he be saying that if there had been a referendum in which over 50% voted for her not to be let back in??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, stevenl said: "A Dutch court ordered the return (to stand trial) of 6 Dutch IS women currently in Kurdish detention. " Link please. Rotterdamse rechter: 'IS-vrouwen' snel uit Syrie halen - RTV Rijnmond There you are. Dutch court, so the article is in Dutch, of course. The court order itself dates back to April 2018, but thus far the Dutch government refuses to budge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, lamyai3 said: Grandstanding is what they do... Looks like they are all being controlled by the same puppet master... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Richard W said: The Home Office has been losing a string of cases where they've tried to strip ex-Bangladeshis of UK citizenship - G3, E3 and N3. True. But non of them concerned UNDERAGE people. Makes a huge difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Ulic said: Maybe, but the government doesn't have to issue her a passport or travel documents. Just cancel the one she has if she has one and let her sit and pontificate on her decisions and actions. If she is allowed to return to the UK it will cost the taxpaying public 10's of millions of pounds in round the clock surveillance, social housing, and other welfare benefits. Let her enjoy her time in her new country. Let Assad deport her when he establishes full control. Of course, while she waits as his guest the UK still does not have to issue a passport or travel documents. The only deporting mr. Assad will be agreeable to is 6 feet under Syrian soil, I'm afraid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Well..that'll fo just fine The only deporting mr. Assad will be agreeable to is 6 feet under Syrian soil, I'm afraid...Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Sorry..do just fineSent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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