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13 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

The Independent Group have spotted a niche in the political market, the centre ground. Corbyn is going to the extreme left, and "no deal" Tories are trying to take them to the extreme right, note the influx of new members from the ranks of UKIP, and the threats of de-selection for the more moderate conservatives. 

 

There's not much difference between Cameron's and Blair's Governments, particularly when the Tories teamed up with the Liberals ... so they might just offer a home to voters who don't feel at home with the Corbyn's and Rees Mogg's of this world. 

 

 

 

 

 

Your opinion is an interesting one and to such a degree, I agree with. I think that if Nigel Farage starts a party there will be another faction that will offer people a choice.

 

Labour and Conservatives could be the minorities in the future.

 

As for this independent group seeing a Niche, yes I agree. To stop brexit that is all, as they have nothing else in common.

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23 hours ago, steve187 said:

but its our country and i assume our crotch we are shooting, The EU has had its day all empires come to an end. its that time

 

all non Brits can have an opinion but it doesn't count. I don't poke my nose in to  the comedy show going on in the USA

 

You think the EU has already seen its day?  I think you will find that is the British problem.

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2 hours ago, Spidey said:

I didn't know that there were 15 ministers. I'll bet you can't name them.

 

We don't know how many there are, its just what an insider source has claimed, but note that these are not the defectors, these are other ministers who are currently remaining loyal to the Tory party yet stating that they plan not to follow the line of the party whip.

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14 hours ago, Donut21 said:

Who would like to live in a dictatorship, The UK does and we voted to leave it.  Hitler was a dictator and we lost many good men fighting for our freedom, which we won.  We lost it to the EU now we want it back.

Your first sentence, is complete rubbish.

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14 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

maybe my memory is failing

wasn't 1/6 gill standard nip size, pulled from dispensers?

 

Good Lord, no.  Pubs were divided between quarter-gill and fifth-gill shops. I’m not sure about England though....

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3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Your opinion is an interesting one and to such a degree, I agree with. I think that if Nigel Farage starts a party there will be another faction that will offer people a choice.

 

Labour and Conservatives could be the minorities in the future.

 

As for this independent group seeing a Niche, yes I agree. To stop brexit that is all, as they have nothing else in common.

It’s more like a group of MP’s who got together over shared Brexit concerns, discovered that they got on better than with some more extreme colleagues, and didn’t like the extreme directions that their parties are taking. Whatever anyone thinks of Blair, he succeeded because his policies where centre ground. There is not much difference between a Blairite and a One Nation Tory.

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, SheungWan said:

I hope all Brexiteers will join me in taking out a subscription to The Chap.

https://thechap.co.uk/

 

The Chap Manifesto,[2] which mandates that a chap is to smoke a pipe

 

I smoke a pipe - a Peterson - acquired at James J. Fox of St. James' St.

 

Quite a rarity these days. 

 

Borkum Riff Cherry Cavendish.............

 

The world would be a much better, more thoughtful place if everyone smoked pipes!

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6 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

You did not read my post and links it is these very Africans and sub continents who came with no ID, let in by Merkels EU policy.

 

Brit bashing again.

 

So where is the evidence for the statement above about Brit nastiness and especially being morons.

 

Still waiting for your long awaited EU reply. I guess like your recent responses you only reply with no conviction and just abuse.

 

As I have stated the British morons would be more than happy to see you give in your British passport. This one would be ecstatic.

How many Africans immigrants entered the UK as a direct result of Merkel's largesse?

 

None? Approximately none?

 

It is a fact that EU net migration has dropped like a stone. The most frequent reason for leaving is that EU immigrants are now made to feel unwelcome. That is due to English (specifically) nastiness.

 

Total net migration is STILL 2x to 3x the Tory target 

 

So the number of non EU migrants has risen steeply

 

As so many Brexiters are racist (despite the denials) or Xenophobic or anti muslim bigots like me; it seems moronic that this is the net result.

 

I apologise for keeping you waiting 3 weeks. I will respond.

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6 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Huh? At end of primary school years, all children in the public education system took an examination referred to as the 11+. The results of that test determined whether an individual was admitted to either a Grammar School or Secondary Modern School. With educational reform in the second half of the 1960s/early 1970s the 11+ was abolished and the binary divide mostly (though not completely) abolished in favour of Comprehensive Schools. Pockets of selection still survive in the UK. All this is separate from the Public School (ie private) education system. If someone tells you they went to a Comprehensive school it usually means they are of a younger generation than those of us who attended either Grammar or Secondary Modern schools. 

I attended a grammar school and went on to take a real degree at a Russell Group University.

 

I sent my my British children to Bedales which is an excellent, if expensive, fee paying school. Very progressive and not at all like Eton or Harrow or Winchester. The school was mixed boarding, very informal with no uniforms and staff referred to by first names. Quite excellent in all respects. Nearly broke me but worth every penny. First class teachers and small class sizes. I recall that every Friday evening they held a "Jaw". A leading light from a profession came to give a talk. Airline pilot, fighter pilot, oncologist, battleship driver etc etc. Pink Floyd came one Friday! Recommended.

 

To my mind, education is everything. As a parent I was happy to get the best education for my children that I could afford.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedales_School

 

I see its 12,000 quid a term now 😱

 

 

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On February 21, 2019 at 8:55 AM, SheungWan said:

"weights and measures". Come back pounds, shillings and pence should be on every Brexiteer banner.

And the farthing and the Guinea and the sovereign and slavery and the Empire and Winston Churchill and WWII.......you cannot go backwards no matter how inviting it might look.

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Was the UK's entry into the EU properly studied before it was enacted?

I strongly suspect that the maintenance of Her cultural autonomy was never considered.

 

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3 hours ago, Grouse said:

The Chap Manifesto,[2] which mandates that a chap is to smoke a pipe

I smoke a pipe - a Peterson - acquired at James J. Fox of St. James' St.

Quite a rarity these days. 

Borkum Riff Cherry Cavendish.............

The world would be a much better, more thoughtful place if everyone smoked pipes!

Apart from the pipe-smoking friend I knew who died from cancer of the jaw.

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