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On 2/21/2019 at 5:22 AM, webfact said:

The ministers opposing a no-deal Brexit are considering challenging British Prime Minister Theresa May to fire them if they vote against her in parliament next week

Yeah fire the minority.

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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So you are saying that over 1 million migrants let in due to Merkels open door policy (many see it as a grave underestimation) none came to the UK. I find that hard to believe and the camps in Calais were a result of that.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

This shows how migration has been over the last 18 years (official figures) Quite good for a BBC article.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40015269

 

Wanting to have regulatory immigration is not racism or xenophobia and a term too often used by others which needs to stop IMHO.

 

I have to say calling someone a moron in Yorkshire from my experience would result in being on the receiving end of a "Yozzer kiss'.:glare:

 

“Wanting to have regulatory immigration is not racism or xenophobia and a term too often used by others which needs to stop IMHO.

 

The UK does have ‘Regulatory’ immigration.

 

I’ll join your calls wrt to the terms ‘racism’ and ‘xenophobia’ being used too often when I see you doing your part to call out the frequent occurrence of racist and xenophobic comments here on TVF.

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1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

I am not sure what you mean by a "real degree at a Russell Group University". The expansion of the UK university system to give an opportunity to middle and working class kids to progress to higher education is one of the jewels in UK education. Add on probably Harold Wilson's most significantly legacy, namely that of the Open University and you have a pretty good system, faults and all. Back in the 1960s, any kid failing their 11+ was odds on done for. Now, a Comprehensive School student stands a chance of taking a degree. Yes, we know the faults, but the opportunity is there. And those who have benefited from a good education might do better showing a little more modesty at times.

 Very well said sir!

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5 hours ago, Grouse said:

The Chap Manifesto,[2] which mandates that a chap is to smoke a pipe

 

I smoke a pipe - a Peterson - acquired at James J. Fox of St. James' St.

 

Quite a rarity these days. 

 

Borkum Riff Cherry Cavendish.............

 

The world would be a much better, more thoughtful place if everyone smoked pipes!

been to Borkum 2-3 times, interesting place.

didna find the denizens particularly thoughtful though

 

 

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So you are saying that over 1 million migrants let in due to Merkels open door policy (many see it as a grave underestimation) none came to the UK. I find that hard to believe and the camps in Calais were a result of that.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

This shows how migration has been over the last 18 years (official figures) Quite good for a BBC article.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40015269

 

Wanting to have regulatory immigration is not racism or xenophobia and a term too often used by others which needs to stop IMHO.

 

I have to say calling someone a moron in Yorkshire from my experience would result in being on the receiving end of a "Yozzer kiss'.:glare:

 

No one is claiming HMG has not admitted asylum seekers / refugees from the EU. An asylum seeker in Germany would be obliged to apply to HMG for refugee status, so far as I'm aware there are no specific figures / reports regards this matter. However, British Red Cross estimates roughly 3% of asylum applications in the EU were lodged in the UK.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/01/britain-one-of-worst-places-western-europe-asylum-seekers

 

How many asylum seekers managed to enter the UK who were based at Calais, I suggest relatively few excepting those granted entry via the Dubs Agreement. Some others have been trafficked into the UK and suffered abuse and exploitation.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/10/why-has-the-uk-ended-its-dubs-child-refugee-scheme

 

in 2016 Merkel apologised for errors made in assessing the situation to waive through the asylum seekers in 2015.

 

“If I could, I would turn back time many, many years to better prepare myself, the federal government and all those in positions of responsibility for the situation we were rather unprepared for in the late summer of 2015,” said Dr Merkel. “No one – including myself – wants a repeat of that situation.”

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3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

I am not sure what you mean by a "real degree at a Russell Group University". The expansion of the UK university system to give an opportunity to middle and working class kids to progress to higher education is one of the jewels in UK education. Add on probably Harold Wilson's most significantly legacy, namely that of the Open University and you have a pretty good system, faults and all. Back in the 1960s, any kid failing their 11+ was odds on done for. Now, a Comprehensive School student stands a chance of taking a degree. Yes, we know the faults, but the opportunity is there. And those who have benefited from a good education might do better showing a little more modesty at times.

The point I was trying to make, obviously unsuccessfully, was that it is possible to get to a decent university without having a public school education

 

Universities do differ quite dramatically and sadly it is no longer enough to have a degree, it now matters which institution awarded it.

 

There was nothing wrong with polytechnics and nothing wrong with HNCs and HNDs

 

My reference to a real degree was me taking a pop at "easy" degrees such as, well you know, fill in the blanks. Real degrees such as engineering, sciences, professions are hard. Seriously.

 

I abhor the dumbing down of everything. If that's elitist; so be it.

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2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So you are saying that over 1 million migrants let in due to Merkels open door policy (many see it as a grave underestimation) none came to the UK. I find that hard to believe and the camps in Calais were a result of that.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

This shows how migration has been over the last 18 years (official figures) Quite good for a BBC article.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40015269

 

Wanting to have regulatory immigration is not racism or xenophobia and a term too often used by others which needs to stop IMHO.

 

I have to say calling someone a moron in Yorkshire from my experience would result in being on the receiving end of a "Yozzer kiss'.:glare:

 

Then read the attachments with the exact figures. THEN respond

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1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said:

been to Borkum 2-3 times, interesting place.

didna find the denizens particularly thoughtful though

 

 

I didn't even know there was such a place!

 

The tobacco is made in Denmark for The Swedish Tobacco Company.

 

They used to advertise it as "What Swedish women like about Swedish men"

 

Lying bastards! Never worked for me......

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3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

I am not sure what you mean by a "real degree at a Russell Group University". The expansion of the UK university system to give an opportunity to middle and working class kids to progress to higher education is one of the jewels in UK education. Add on probably Harold Wilson's most significantly legacy, namely that of the Open University and you have a pretty good system, faults and all. Back in the 1960s, any kid failing their 11+ was odds on done for. Now, a Comprehensive School student stands a chance of taking a degree. Yes, we know the faults, but the opportunity is there. And those who have benefited from a good education might do better showing a little more modesty at times.

Modesty? I never remove my trousers in public!

 

Seriously, the continual anti-intellectual chants have become boring. It is my strong belief that education is key and worth striving for. Frankly, if that comes across as immodesty; I don't give a damn.

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3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So you are saying that over 1 million migrants let in due to Merkels open door policy (many see it as a grave underestimation) none came to the UK. I find that hard to believe and the camps in Calais were a result of that.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

This shows how migration has been over the last 18 years (official figures) Quite good for a BBC article.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40015269

 

Wanting to have regulatory immigration is not racism or xenophobia and a term too often used by others which needs to stop IMHO.

 

I have to say calling someone a moron in Yorkshire from my experience would result in being on the receiving end of a "Yozzer kiss'.:glare:

 

I found this on the BBC News website.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-47214914

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-kent-45101250/english-channel-migrant-smuggling-gang-caught-on-camera

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-38961372

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